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joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
43. Just release the data.
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:24 PM
Apr 2013

It's the most uncontroversial thing ever.

I keep saying that if the Chavistas want to marginalize Capriles they should simply do it.

Certainly López Obrador was highly marginalized by Felipe Calderón who acquiesced on the fraud allegations that López Obrador made back in 2006 in Mexico. Indeed, Capriles is following the López Obrador model completely, by calling for protests (which Obrador did and and Capriles is going to do again May 1st). Of course when Obrador did it (twice) he was cheered as a man of the people and for the people. Capriles is called a treasonous fascist (typical with the double speak used so frequently on these forums).

My thinking is simple. They know that the rolls are not tight and they are afraid that their incompetence will be shown so they're not releasing the data. It's likely that the whole fingerprinting thing was a fiasco from the beginning (the Carter Center admonished them for simply using them to scare people about the secrecy of the vote; and it worked because the students certainly protested it).

The real irony is that the system is supposed to be designed so that an audit of this magnitude would be able to very trivially prove each vote was legitimate, and so simply providing the data would, even if there are irregularities, make the system more robust in the future.

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Yes, well, he should have been born under a Bush, then Demeter Apr 2013 #1
Meanwhile the rest of the world (US excluded) recognizes Maduro as legitimately elected. n/t Tempest Apr 2013 #2
If he dispatches his zombie storm troopers to lay waste to more medical units, Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #3
Venezuela vote recount bahrbearian Apr 2013 #4
An imperialist foreign policy means never having to say you're sorry Tempest Apr 2013 #5
Well, he's certainly blowing the carefully crafted image he tried to create isn't he? No surprise sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #6
Well... ocpagu Apr 2013 #7
He agreed to an audit. joshcryer Apr 2013 #8
That is a complete LIE! Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #9
Saying it is open source is a lie! Show me the source code. joshcryer Apr 2013 #10
Thanks for pointing this out, I've been meaning to get to it. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #11
Smartmatic is a mulitmillion dollar corporation. joshcryer Apr 2013 #16
There was never much credibility to be restored reorg Apr 2013 #12
The assertion made by Josh Cryer naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #13
This poster makes "assertions" every day reorg Apr 2013 #14
That is simply not an independent audit. joshcryer Apr 2013 #15
"Capriles' problem in the OP" reorg Apr 2013 #17
Code "divided among the political parties and the CNE"! Peace Patriot Apr 2013 #18
I'm not sure that is right naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #19
"The CNE, however, owns the source code of all Smartmatic software they use." reorg Apr 2013 #20
huh? naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #21
I know you don't get it reorg Apr 2013 #22
It's not open source naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #23
it is open to examination by opposition representatives and technicians reorg Apr 2013 #26
I didn't say that you said that. naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #28
you know reorg Apr 2013 #30
You were wrong and put words in my mouth naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #33
you said reorg Apr 2013 #34
You are changing the subject naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #35
ridiculous reorg Apr 2013 #37
You are right, naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #38
Where is the source code? joshcryer Apr 2013 #27
"I agree that the opposition isn't talking about the source code" reorg Apr 2013 #31
Nope, he wants to check to see if the machines work. joshcryer Apr 2013 #36
LOL reorg Apr 2013 #40
Please provide a link to the code. joshcryer Apr 2013 #25
Wrong, the audit was to include ALL of that. joshcryer Apr 2013 #24
you can try and twist it as much as you want reorg Apr 2013 #29
Whatever was said before the formal request is irrelevant. joshcryer Apr 2013 #39
What's amusing, naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #41
Or maybe if you want to prove that the dead came up reorg Apr 2013 #42
Just release the data. joshcryer Apr 2013 #43
No one in the US should be questioning the election results in Venezuela. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #32
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