Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. No way! Chaos. With the verdict a few hours away, this judge rules for Rios Montt. Rolls back trial
Fri May 10, 2013, 10:30 AM
May 2013
Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni 42s

Ping-pong. Judge Flores refers case back to earlier stage. Confirms her decree of April 18, dials back case to Nov. 23 2011. HT


See UK Guardian article in post 2

Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni 1m

"Public Prosecutor to judge: "You aren't executing in accordance with what the Constitutional Court decided. Please reconsider."

PlazaPública en Vivo ‏@PzPenVivo 1m

"Los órganos jurisdiccionales no le dicen al juez lo que debe resolver. Yo interpero, de acuerdo a mis conocimientos...", Flores
The Judicial Courts do not tell a judge how to rule. I interpret based on my understanding.

Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni 1m

Judge Flores has just re confirmed her previous decree that genocide case be suspended & rolled back to Nov 2011 stage when she was involved

Romina Ruiz-Goiriena ‏@romireports 1m

Pre-trial Judge Carol Flores attempts to stop verdict from happening. Insists proceedings must go back Nov 2011.

Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni 1m

Rios Montt genocide trial is once again thrown into chaos just before it reaches a milestone of completion. High drama.

NISGUA ‏@NISGUA_Guate 1m

As the #GenocideGT trial judges deliberate, Flores reconfirms her April 18 resolution to annul process.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Now inside court of judge Flores who previously supported demand to shut down the trial Catherina May 2013 #1
Judge Flores is seated. Relates to complaints by Montt's defense attorneys Catherina May 2013 #2
Judge Carol Patricia Flores delivering decision Catherina May 2013 #3
No way! Chaos. With the verdict a few hours away, this judge rules for Rios Montt. Rolls back trial Catherina May 2013 #4
Centre for Human Rights Legal Action says this does not affect the 4pm ruling Catherina May 2013 #5
confusion as Judge Flores upholds her 4/18 ruling suspending trial however... Catherina May 2013 #6
Attorney General Claudia Paz y Paz stated that the Flores 4/18 judgment was illegal Catherina May 2013 #7
"We don't tolerate corruption, impunity, influence peddling" That IS a hot one! n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #56
Judgment in Genocide Trial Expected Today at 4 pm Despite Pre-trial Judge’s Call for Annulment Catherina May 2013 #8
Guardian: Guatemala genocide trial: witnesses of atrocities tell their stories Catherina May 2013 #9
Perfectly focused, truthful comment. Thanks for including it. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #58
3:45PM Rios Montt enters the courtroom, sparse applause and shouts of 'asesino' Catherina May 2013 #10
....."I am innocent," Ríos Montt tells court in genocide trial, breaking silence Judi Lynn May 2013 #86
Waiting, waiting... The courtroom is packed. 10 more minutes now... Catherina May 2013 #11
Thank you for the photos. People of so many generations came. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #85
Nazi supporter of Montt in courtroom again today Catherina May 2013 #12
Wow. Audacious, but honest when a rightest shows his colors. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #59
electric air of anticipation fills the air / Live video feed Catherina May 2013 #13
Judges enter to overwhelming applause Catherina May 2013 #14
"We're going to give a sentence based on the consciousness of the Guatemalan republic" Catherina May 2013 #15
Judge Barrios begins reading the sentence. Begins by reviewing the charges Catherina May 2013 #16
Barrios refers to Plan Victoria 82: The objective was to annul the civil population, Catherina May 2013 #17
Judge Barrios: Hunger, rape were strategies of control... We could see the pain of the victims Catherina May 2013 #18
From these entries, something we've heard used elsewhere: Judi Lynn May 2013 #60
use of sexual violence was a deliberate tactic with which to tear apart the social fabric. Catherina May 2013 #19
The judge is phenomenal. Hope they won't harm her for her courage. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #61
Me too. HUGE. "Trial has marked a turning point 4 rape survivors, breaking taboo of sexual violence" Catherina May 2013 #78
Unfathomable that anyone would engage in sexual violence. Judi Lynn May 2013 #80
All of them. You know what really kills me? "soldiers jailed 4 more than 6,000 years over massacre" Catherina May 2013 #88
For Dos Erres, which name is infamous all over the world, now. Judi Lynn May 2013 #95
Judge says this was done because they considered the Ixil subhuman Catherina May 2013 #20
You don't want to believe it, but it's true. Just like the U.S. South has been. Judi Lynn May 2013 #62
Jadge states RiosMontt was aware of plans, refers to his Sunday sermons Catherina May 2013 #21
"The Ixil women who testified about sexual violence here broke silence"... Catherina May 2013 #22
Information about this one and Plan Victoria Campaign 82 has been inaccessable Judi Lynn May 2013 #63
Judge highlights constant communication btwn military Catherina May 2013 #23
Message deleted by the DU Administrators Catherina May 2013 #24
"clandestine cemeteries, mental harm, transfer of children from one group to another" Catherina May 2013 #25
Judge: Rios Montt was aware of everything. He had the utmost authority to stop massacres Catherina May 2013 #26
Judge: "We believe the conduct expressed by Rios Montt is guilty of genocide Catherina May 2013 #27
Judge: JM Rodriguez not guilty of any charges (of genocide) Catherina May 2013 #28
Judge: Rios Montt guilty of genocide - 50 years in prison Catherina May 2013 #29
Rios Montt guilty of crimes against humanity - 30 years of prison for that Catherina May 2013 #30
hearing on May 13 at 830AM to establish reparations to the victims Catherina May 2013 #31
Rios Montt to prison right now. 80 total years in prison, non commutable Catherina May 2013 #32
Awesome naaman fletcher May 2013 #47
Congratuations to Guatemala & to the system which provided this brave judge. Judi Lynn May 2013 #54
You're welcome my friend Catherina May 2013 #57
Rios-Montt's daughter, Zuri absolutely doesn't seem likely to forget Judi Lynn May 2013 #72
Thank god. Guatemala owes thanks, respect to the prosecutor, the clean judges. Judi Lynn May 2013 #64
Cheers, cheers - "Yes there was genocide" Catherina May 2013 #33
loud boom near defense table. Rios Montt trying to leave the courtroom as if not guilty Catherina May 2013 #34
Judge Barrios may feel it necessary to leave Guatemala after this. Judi Lynn May 2013 #65
The courtroom is totally out of control. There are a lot of people and guns in here Catherina May 2013 #35
People telling at Press who seem to be shielding Rios Montt. Judge calls 4 security Catherina May 2013 #36
Judge Barrios: We are staying here until the police come. Press, please maintain order. Catherina May 2013 #37
WTF! Rios Montt already giving a phone interview. Catherina May 2013 #38
"This is an international political show" say Rios Montt Catherina May 2013 #39
Press has reformed a tight circle around Montt. authorities have arrived to remove him Catherina May 2013 #40
Courtroom singing "We only want to be human" Catherina May 2013 #41
These images are valuable accompanying the poem/song. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #66
You're welcome with hugs. About Otto Rene Castillo, Guatemalan communist poet and revolutionary Catherina May 2013 #74
It's good his words, at least, survived... Judi Lynn May 2013 #81
Shouts against sentence amid song. Catherina May 2013 #42
At least a dozen national police enter... Gallery still singing 'aquí solo queremos ser humanos' Catherina May 2013 #43
Public is now singing "Solo pido a díos"... while waiting for Montt to be handed to police Catherina May 2013 #44
Overwhelming. Just seeing what your post said was so intense. Judi Lynn May 2013 #67
Powerful lyrics! Thanks for the link Catherina May 2013 #75
Ixiles cheer. Victory. Priests and traditional leaders hold staffs high Catherina May 2013 #45
“EL PUEBLO UNIDO JAMAS SERA VENCIDO” Catherina May 2013 #46
She doesn't know it but she has admirers around the world by now. Judi Lynn May 2013 #68
Ríos Montt is now being removed from the courtroom Catherina May 2013 #48
“All the people here applauding, tomorrow you... bow your heads, your tails between your legs." Catherina May 2013 #49
Rios Montt sent to VIP prison Catherina May 2013 #50
Nobel Prize Winner Rigoberta Menchu. Weeping with joy at verdict "For years they said I was lying." Catherina May 2013 #51
Wonderful. So good she got to see this. n/t Judi Lynn May 2013 #69
I will never ever forget how she was vilified. Even here on DU Catherina May 2013 #76
Exactly, Catherina, and it's still so damned dirty in my memory. Judi Lynn May 2013 #83
Found a photo to add to this post: Judi Lynn May 2013 #89
Pic: Ixil women were weeping after the verdict and sentence were delivered Catherina May 2013 #52
Fundacion Contra Terrorismo was filming Ixiles as they left court: threat/intimidation. Catherina May 2013 #53
The right-wing NEVER gives up, always try to terrorize good people. Judi Lynn May 2013 #70
One more thing. Happy Mother's Day Guatemalan Indigenous Women Catherina May 2013 #55
This information is totally credible. What a sickening shame. Judi Lynn May 2013 #71
Agence France-Presse: Ex-Guatemalan Ruler Found Guilty of Genocide Judi Lynn May 2013 #73
NYT: " As the general tried to walk out a side door..." Catherina May 2013 #77
Strange cluster of men standing behind Rios-Montt, isn't it? Judi Lynn May 2013 #84
I frankly fear for the judge, the plaintiff, and the witnesses now. and Allan Nairn... Catherina May 2013 #90
I believe it! Too much hatred, too much ego caught up in this, Judi Lynn May 2013 #94
Amazing news. limpyhobbler May 2013 #87
That yes! And not giving weapons to genocidal murderers now or ever again. Catherina May 2013 #91
More Photos from yestereday (graphic intense) Catherina May 2013 #79
These photos are priceless. Glad, also, for the Judge Flores photo, Judi Lynn May 2013 #93
Thanks for the thread! nt flamingdem May 2013 #82
It is, as always, my pleasure. And thank you for reading it Catherina May 2013 #92
Latest Discussions»Region Forums»Latin America»Rios Montt Verdict Day. ...»Reply #4