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Response to Mika (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:01 AM

11. Do you have to visit the nazi concentration camps to believe they were there?

As you probably know by now, I distrust government propaganda and tend to be quite paranoid when somebody tries to drive me in a given direction. But I know something called nazism emerged in Germany and the nazis carried out genocide which indeed horrible.

Thus it's possible to become convinced that something is, or is not, without being there. I have seen enough complaints and descriptions of what happened and happens in Cuba to convince me it is a dictatorship and it abuses human rights. I also happen to study very closely what happens in Venezuela for my work, and I have recruited students from their universities, quite a few of which tell me what goes on. And I see you posting propaganda about Venezuela I know is bogus. So, my friend, this means you lose credibility.

And if you lose credibility posting material about Venezuela why should I believe much you state about Cuba? Au contraire, I'd say the intensity you display makes my antennae come up.

And tell me, why should I disbelieve the UN human rights reports, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and others? I know they do cover some things, but I don't think they complain inventing facts. On the other hand I've noticed the Cuban regime has for over 50 years refused to hold elections. I also heard the Mario Silva recordings in which he says Fidel Castro felt democracy and free elections were invented by the burguesie and should not be used "because the people could make mistakes". Mario Silva nailed the coffin as far as I am concerned: Fidel Castro is an anti democratic and obsolete dictator. And given what I read nowadays, I think Raul Castro is a born again fascist. Those two, each in their own way, have shown they are not worth a glass of warm spit.

Which returns me to the OP. I think the bay of pigs invasion was a dumb idea. I also read different versions about why it failed. But what comes out seems to be told by Americans who were trying to cover their behinds. Therefore I repeat we do need to see if the CIA documents can be obtained...maybe someday we may know a bit more. I even dare say it may have been the Cubans betrayed by Kennedy who shot him?

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