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Oele

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18. 'Communism' is a loaded term.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:58 AM
Sep 2013

Last edited Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:16 AM - Edit history (1)

I realize that some people would argue that we should use the word 'socialism' instead of 'communism', but that term is just to broad. When we say 'communism' we try refer to the 'all the way socialism' flavour they had, or wanted to have, in the soviet union. The word 'socialism' can also refer to 'social democracy' type of thing we have in large parts of Europe.

Of course I can't speak for Socialistlemur but i'm personally not against communism per se. If a country succeeds in implementing communism without letting its people suffer from poverty, a lack of freedom and human rights abuses, that would be *GREAT*! The thing is - i have never seen it happen. And it doesn't seem to be happening in Venezuela right now.

Whether the NLG are communists or not *is* relevant in this specific context - if they are communist, or socialist, or red, or "very left wing" or whatever you may call it, there's a great chance that they have a bias in favor of the current "socialist" Venezuelan government.

We are not trying to destroy people, democracy, liberal freedoms or the marketplace. We're just pointing out that there's a big chance that the NLG is not the most neutral source when it comes to this particular subject.

I agree with you that there is a thin line between pointing out a bias and "baiting" or "label flinging".

I just think that it is sad that many forum members who get very upset when someone says 'communist', find it OK to call people 'fascists', 'right wing pigs' or 'coup supporters' because of their political opinion. The same people think that the NLG should be trusted regardless of its political orientation, while disregarding anything written by papers like El Universal or El Nacional or blogs like Caracas Chronicles, just because they're "right wing media" that can not be trusted under any circumstance.

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The National Lawyers Guild's above reproach. Good to see this report. Judi Lynn Aug 2013 #1
Oh to have a verifiable vote! I'm jealous. roody Aug 2013 #2
Imagine, a country which doesn't try to keep students, "minorities," and elderly Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #3
Kicking. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #4
I'm not from the US.. Oele Sep 2013 #5
Clearly you're turning to us for advice because you respect us so much. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #6
On the other hand many others said the Venezuelan elections were a sham Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #7
National Lawyers Guild is highly biased, their report is worthless Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #8
Thanks for the clarification. Oele Sep 2013 #9
Is Jimmy Carter a "communist," too? Peace Patriot Sep 2013 #10
That quote from Jimmy Carter was from september last year. Oele Sep 2013 #11
I'd say if they give the Venezuelan elections a thumbs up NLG has zero credibility Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #12
It's ok if you want to be a communist Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #13
Take your red-baiting and label flinging elsewhere. Clearly you should know better. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #15
Red baiting? Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #21
About the National Lawyers Guild Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #14
NLG--"first racially integrated bar association." Yup, "communists." Peace Patriot Sep 2013 #16
Had known you were involved in the nat'l struggle 4 civil rights.U know wherof U speak! Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #17
'Communism' is a loaded term. Oele Sep 2013 #18
The sources you mention would be welcome at a right-wing site. Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #19
Information which was down-played: FBI Spying on the National Lawyers Guild Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #20
Hell the CIA has spied on me in the past Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #22
Yeah, they spied on my bloviating Aunt Fannie, too. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2013 #23
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