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In reply to the discussion: Venezuela Cry for Help [View all]

bemildred

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22. That isn't likely to get you far.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 08:22 AM
Feb 2014

I was a student once, and I'm still pissed off. But I don't expect it to get me far, don't think it is a sound basis for action, being mad. Rather the opposite. When you are mad you can't think for shit, you do stupid things, you get drunk.

I don't know. Maduro may or may not be making a mistake. He seems to think it is necessary to crack down, which may be because he feels less secure, or maybe because he needs to crack down. But I tend to think he got impatient too, and the "students" do raise some serious hell. But I'm not there, and out here in TV land you have to assume it's all bullshit, selective, and in any case not intended to keep you well informed as opposed to selectively informed. Nobody shows you their own warts. And most of them will flat make shit up when it is their interests that are threatened.

On the other hand, I think there is an element for Maduro, deciding to crack down, of being able to get away with it, and I'm dead sure the "students" have picked a truly bad time to start a fight. Nobody is going to invervene on their side. I mean, the whole world is in an uproar, nobody is going to have time to stress about Venezuela. They are small potatoes at the moment. And if he gets aways with it, it's not a mistake.

The point being, Maduro is legitimately elected, and he does have plenty of support, so picking a fight now because you are mad, is, well, juvenile. They should wait. Maduro is so incompetent, their time will come. These things go on for generations. Already have for that matter, as we all know here. The rightists have been in power many times, somehow they never last, even without honest elections. If you want to stick around, you have to find a way to govern well.

You notice Obama never gets mad in public, and doesn't run his mouth to amuse himself, and he always keeps his eye on the ball, and when he gets a shot, he takes it. Discipline.

And if he gets aways with it, Maduro sits more securely in power for a while. Like Yanukovich would if he succeeded in suppressing the protests there. But he probably loses some support for it. And violence is always bad.

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Venezuela Cry for Help [View all] mecherosegarden Feb 2014 OP
Move along, nothing to see here. COLGATE4 Feb 2014 #1
Venezuela seems to be quite some fetish country for the fascist right. delrem Feb 2014 #2
Does Latin America want America OUT of their business or IN to their business, they seem Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #3
You seem to be very confused. Confused enough to be asking *me* for answers delrem Feb 2014 #4
the US won't touch this one. THe US won't intervene in Syria and Venezuela isn't nearly Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #5
You're joking, right? delrem Feb 2014 #6
don't worry about it. Syria has shown capable of fucking up their country w/o the US Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #7
Do you get paid for telling the "w/o the US" lie? delrem Feb 2014 #8
have you always been a fan of repressive governments or just trying something new? Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #9
You're joking, right? delrem Feb 2014 #10
No, they mean it. bemildred Feb 2014 #13
There are several of them. They don't even make sense to themselves. delrem Feb 2014 #14
If you get mad, you lose. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #15
They do serve a purpose though. It comforts me to know how ineffective the 'opposition' is sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #31
Now that is a funny comment. Lol!! sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #12
I remember the Libya issue and you would just post any b.s. without any link Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #16
Personal attacks is all you have? 'Don't like the US'. Prove that nasty, false claim or sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #17
ok, I wasn't going to retract anything anyway. I vividly recall you and your Gadafi lovefest Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #18
One of the most vile attacks against Democrats from Right Wing Bush supporters. We all remember sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #19
its not a lie, you were a Gadafi supporter and here you are supporting Maduro and his paramilitaries Bacchus4.0 Feb 2014 #24
That ought to be easy for you to prove. Post one comment of mine, there are tens of thousands sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #27
Here our esteemed contributer Bacchus4.0 delrem Mar 2014 #33
Nothing will come of it. bemildred Feb 2014 #11
I don't think the students have a concrete ideology. joshcryer Feb 2014 #20
That isn't likely to get you far. bemildred Feb 2014 #22
They're students. joshcryer Feb 2014 #23
Can you post a link or two where DUers are asking for the US to intervene? I've seen no such post. Flatulo Feb 2014 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author springchick Feb 2014 #28
You're link is dead, and you are delusional. I could not possibly care less about Venezueala, Flatulo Feb 2014 #29
Delusional huh? SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #30
Once again, I have no idea what you're talking about. Please check who you think you are Flatulo Feb 2014 #32
Good information. MinM Mar 2014 #34
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