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delrem

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23. Capitalist fascists hate democratic socialists. Complete and total HATE.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 07:24 PM
Mar 2014

The two ideologies, capitalist-fascism/democratic-socialism, are opposites.

This hatred is aroused esp. when democratic socialism wins elections, as in Venezuela.

So, naturally, capitalist fascists suggest that the democratic gov't that they hate is "a dictatorship", and, when not pushing that blatantly false message, they do everything in their power to push a message that the electoral victories of democratic socialism aren't significant.

The only significant elections recognized by capitalist-fascists are those that elect a neo-con over a neo-lib, or vice-versa, in a tweedledum/tweedledee electoral farce. Capitalist-fascists are all too willing to deny political rights to the socialist left. HUAC isn't all that long ago, and those who designed HUAC went on to even more effective works - many of those works being in Latin America.

Capitalist fascists are all too willing to empower a right-wing coup overthrowing a democratic socialist gov't. This has been proven over and over in Latin America, and not just in Latin America. But fascists are never willing to claim actual responsibility. Their denial of history is astounding -- and in the midst of their denial of history, of responsibility, they will spew accusations that democratic socialists are lying.

Even in this forum there are some who are now denying that there was an aborted 2002 coup against the democratically elected gov't of Hugo Chavez -- they say that documentaries like 'The Revolution won't be Televised' are false, made up shit, and they promote a tidier opposition friendly account (the opposition, in this case, being that of the fascist would-be coup plotters). They deny any news or analysis of Venezuela that isn't brought to the world by big money MSM interests - saying that such news and analysis is communist propaganda.

Democratic socialists work toward ideals like single payer health and education systems, systems which *block* private insurance companies, for example, from participation. Democratic socialists work toward single payer medicare and pharmaceutical care, both of which regulate what would otherwise be the most despicable profiteering on the back of desperation. Both of which, when combined, would put impetus behind the creation of community health care clinics, behind prevention, behind the promotion of generic alternatives to costly drugs, etc. All of which would give even the least advantaged, in however numbers, a more equal opportunity to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in a modern world.

Democratic socialists work toward the ideal of community/state ownership (and regulation) of natural resources. The fascist right requires, as a sine quo non of their definition of "reality", of their "reality based world", 100% private ownership of all natural resources, as well as all means of production. Such a "reality", to them, is a natural state (and they have natural gods, as well - like an "invisible hand&quot , and thus they define the object of social democracy out of existence. When in power they do everything that they can to make their fascist system permanent - by systematically stripping the gov't of all power to work toward a common good, in favor of instituting new powers that give the moneyed elite an unimpeded, unregulated hand.

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5 myths about the Venezuela crisis [View all] Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 OP
Maduro speaks RobertEarl Mar 2014 #1
49.1% of Venezuelans voted against Maduro, and that was before the shortages and Flatulo Mar 2014 #2
So now you are an economist? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #3
"And so the rich did everything they could to defeat the Bolivars but failed! FAILED They f'n lost" ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #4
It is called a campaign RobertEarl Mar 2014 #5
What do you mean by "the bolivars"? ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #6
My bad RobertEarl Mar 2014 #7
He's more of an economist than Maduro is. smokey775 Mar 2014 #8
Read this RobertEarl Mar 2014 #9
I did read it. smokey775 Mar 2014 #10
And yours? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #11
My source? Already listed, smokey775 Mar 2014 #12
The 49% who voted against Maduro represents more than 7 million Venezuelans Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #13
Yes, many richer people voted for Maduro. RobertEarl Mar 2014 #16
So what about those who are poor and have been poor that voted against him? Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #17
All you need to know, dear fellow RobertEarl Mar 2014 #18
You still haven't answered my question, stop trying to change the subject Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #19
Talk with any economist who knows Venezuela well and they'll tell you the same thing Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #14
Sure? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #15
Why is there erosion in confidence in VZs currency? Flatulo Mar 2014 #20
The 'useless shit' I designed was computer hard drives, Flatulo Mar 2014 #21
"The US is putting the economic screws to VZ, because Big Oil wants the VZ oil." EX500rider Mar 2014 #22
Capitalist fascists hate democratic socialists. Complete and total HATE. delrem Mar 2014 #23
Democratic Socialists don't like or use toilet paper, believe all food should be imported Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #24
That's just ...... not thought out. delrem Mar 2014 #25
yeah, your post was ridiculous Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #26
The gov't of Venezuela is democratically elected. Socialist. delrem Mar 2014 #27
the government of Venezuela is horrible, just look at the problems in the country n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #28
As I said... nt delrem Mar 2014 #29
As you said? Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #30
So, you're really, really upset, mondo upset, Marksman_91. delrem Mar 2014 #31
There's really no need for that kind of language Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #32
I'll repeat it then. Since asswipe shortages seem to be on some people's brains. delrem Mar 2014 #33
Sometimes labels aren't particularly helpful. The Scandanavian states Flatulo Mar 2014 #34
No. You only know how to smear. You have no argument. delrem Mar 2014 #35
No interest in history? Not so. I'm on record in many postings as being completely and utterly Flatulo Mar 2014 #36
Right. I believe you, Flatulo - you're baffled by your own posts. nt delrem Mar 2014 #37
Funny how you respond to civility with rudeness, without fail. Flatulo Mar 2014 #39
You keep reducing these discussions to personal attacks and you'll face the banammer Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #41
Well, y'know - you're engaging in a personal attack. delrem Mar 2014 #42
I think it is very telling, delrem Mar 2014 #38
Would it be possible for anybody in any way, to express disagreement with the Venezuelan government Oele Mar 2014 #40
Not if the intent is to foment violence, to make way for a coup, delrem Mar 2014 #43
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