Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latin America
In reply to the discussion: Why Venezuela's Neighbors Are Hoping For A Chavez Win Sunday [View all]naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)24. answers
The legislature is controlled by the Colorado Party, with only a few seats held by the splinter leftist and a few other parties.
According to Wikipedia, 26 of 80 seats is held by the "Authentic Radical Liberal Party".
Don't know for sure, but I imagine they got their 76-1 vote partly by bribery, threats, intimidation and other typical methods of a corrupt elite.
In other words, you have no idea.
One thing is very clear: The legislature is NOT representative of the people of Paraguay. It is a very corrupt institution that represents the rich landowners.
How do you know this is clear? Is there a poll somewhere? Or are you assuming?
But you, as usual, side with the fascists, eh? You think they did right?
I am not siding with the fascists. I side with intellectual discourse that sees every single issues as a two-sided "fascists vs the people"
You really love this stat that the fractious leftist remnants got bullied or bribed into ousting the elected president, don't you? You repeat it often.
I love correct figures in the face of misleading bullshit.
Do you also like how they gave President Lugo only 24 hours to prepare a defense against impeachment? Do you like how he felt he had to resign, in that circumstance, to avoid violence? You approve of unfair proceedings like these?
Seems rather "unfair" to my frame of reference, but I have no idea if it is somehow standard there?
You think Paraguay is a fair country, where everybody has a chance, everybody gets an education, has health care, and can pull himself or herself up by his or her bootstraps--and, if it isn't a fair country, well, those are the breaks? Or maybe you have some "Ayn Rand" scheme about the rich elite "trickling down" wealth to the poor?
No. I believe in correct information being given on this board.
How DO you feel about the miserable poverty in Paraguay? How do you feel about the history of torture and murder by the fascists, in Paraguay? How do you feel about the elected president getting booted out by the unrepresentative legislature, with barely a chance to defend himself, and that at the risk of civil violence?
I think the first two suck. I think the third one probably sucks too as he seemed like a pretty good guy.
One final question: How do you feel about the poor farm workers (most Paraguayans) getting sprayed with toxic pesticides by the soy moguls? You think that's okay? I would guess that you DO think it's okay--that it's acceptable "collateral damage" for those who are profiting from it. But correct me if I'm wrong. I'm basing this assumption on your other opinions here at DU. It's a big issue in Paraguay. It's basically why Bishop Lugo got elected (because he so strongly opposes it). Do you think it should be stopped? And, if so, how--now that the poor have been deprived of their president?
I think it sucks, and I have given no positions on here to suggest it is ok, you are just making stuff up because you see the world as black and white i.e. if one doesn't think Chavez is the greatest, then therefore one must be in favor of toxic pesticides!
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
30 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Jimmy Carter has described Venezuelan elections under Chavez as the cleanest in the world.
Judi Lynn
Oct 2012
#2
wealthy ranch owners cannot tolerate even the thought of world without inequality.
SESKATOW
Oct 2012
#25
You mean Hugo Chavez, right? How many boligarchs has Chavez arrested for campesino murders?
joshcryer
Oct 2012
#26
no, they just changed the ballot so that some who vote for where Capriles picture is located
Bacchus4.0
Oct 2012
#6
he was impeached after a deadly riot where numerous peasants and police were killed
Bacchus4.0
Oct 2012
#7
Lugo likes Chavez very much, invited him to his inauguration, worked for Venezuela
Judi Lynn
Oct 2012
#12
Paraguay's fascists used the Honduran template--a fake "constitutional crisis"--
Peace Patriot
Oct 2012
#13
The Colorado Party which has completely controlled Paraguay over 61 years IS fascist.
Judi Lynn
Oct 2012
#18
The fascists (the Colorado Party) still rules the country, obviously. They are entrenched.
Peace Patriot
Oct 2012
#21