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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. Not much
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:13 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Thanks for considering my point. I'm not much of a charts person, especially after working with corporations who paid people to make the charts say whatever they wanted.

I went to Venezuela several times in the last 2 years and never noticed any food shortages but my needs are very different than most Americans.

I remember being in Germany and listening to my fellow Americans moan that the Germans were backwards because they didn't stock this or that. Naaman, I lived all over the world growing up and several of those places were poor. Some were poor in everything, where people starved on the streets and others were *poor* in luxury goods but everyone was housed, clothed, fed and happy.

In the wealthier places, you could find Bloc of Goose Foie Gras on the supermarket shelves. In the places where people were well-fed and happy, such a thing was unheard of but you could find plenty of chicken, rice, pork....

So can you clarify what you mean by a food shortage on grocery store shelves?

If you're thinking of empty shelves with nothing on them, I assure you that's not the case in Venezuela. If you're looking for shelves stocked with caviar and other imported goods, then you would be in trouble but those are luxuries, not basic food items. Imported yoghurt and Skippy's Peanut Butter aren't basic food needs in my book either.

Plenty of plantains, rice, chicken, pork, beans, corn, beef (Evo Morales pays for his oil in beef believe it or not & Nicaragua sometimes paid for their oil with beef, sugar, coffee, mil). I suggest that if you need more than staples like that, the problem is with you and you're part of the reason this modern world, that flies water in pretty little bottles from Mount Fiji to California, is so messed up right now (I'm using "you" generally there).

Additionally, an often used tactic to destabilize countries and their economies in Latin America is to affect the flow of goods in and out so that a right-wing military coup can take place to "save" the country. That's how Pinochet got put into power in Chile.

Chavez found a way to get around all that and feed his people despite the business community's tricks. Read this article about the way they'd hoard food stuffs.

Think of all the shortages we have in our country. Most of them aren't even real but just a tactic to raise the prices. Remember the oil shortages in the US? The sugar shortages?

So basically, I don't buy the big hullaballoo about food shortages on grocery store shelves because it just wasn't there, the shelves were full when I went (see this article too http://www.democraticunderground.com/11089768) and most importantly, people were well fed. The poor were totally unconcerned with shortages of imports like Skippy's peanut butter. Instead, they bought peanuts at the market and ground them up themselves, cutting out the middleman and his profits.

Malnutrition has been eradicated in Venezuela. All the people crying about food shortages are crying about lost money making schemes, they want to go back to a time where they could squeeze the last drops from the little guy and point to their full shelves. Which would you prefer? Full shelves of fancy stuff you can't afford or real food for your children to grow healthy in a political system where they have a real say?

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I'll bet. He did a lot for the working class and the farmers. Warpy Mar 2013 #1
I agree naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #3
He did the land reform that was absolutely necessary Warpy Mar 2013 #5
I find that misleading about the food imports Catherina Mar 2013 #6
Interesting post, thanks naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #7
Not much Catherina Mar 2013 #8
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #10
I live in Guatemala City now? and in an elite community? Catherina May 2013 #11
Yes you live in an elite community naaman fletcher May 2013 #12
You really have no idea what you're talking about Catherina May 2013 #13
You live among naaman fletcher May 2013 #14
I live "among" them? News to me. Catherina May 2013 #15
LOL naaman fletcher May 2013 #16
We've already established you have a reading comprehension problem and no knowledge of Latin America Catherina May 2013 #17
Ok naaman fletcher May 2013 #18
Yeah and you enjoy getting shitcanned you fucking troll! Rex Jul 2013 #30
Thank you for your post. You've done many DU'ers a favor Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #32
Thanks, that particular one went nuclear Rex Jul 2013 #33
Lol, I wear my only hidden post with pride now Catherina Jul 2013 #35
That was a fantastic post you wrote which got hidden. Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #36
Haha lol. Worn with incredible pride Catherina Jul 2013 #37
I have read all the same posts the hissy fit pitcher has, never realized Judi Lynn May 2013 #20
He's just making stuff up as usual. Catherina May 2013 #24
I was thinking the guy didn't have any idea of what he was trying to claim. Judi Lynn May 2013 #26
He can't reply, got tombstoned. Rex Jul 2013 #31
Hahaha! Thanks my dear friend! Catherina Jul 2013 #34
It was cute, he tried to bend in with the legal crowd. Rex Jul 2013 #38
You are such a dear friend! Catherina Jul 2013 #39
Someone told me once to pay attention to the pronouns people who want to avoid facts generally sabrina 1 May 2013 #23
Nor shall you ever Catherina May 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 May 2013 #19
Here's more for you. Protecting the poor Catherina Mar 2013 #9
You're showing the wrong indicator. You're looking for food imports over food consumption spanza May 2013 #21
Nice try in your attempt to harrass Catherina. You need a hobby. Judi Lynn May 2013 #22
Maybe you should relax and then read spanza May 2013 #27
Really? "The dictionary" says the following: Judi Lynn May 2013 #28
Hahaha, yes, really, I don't see any "aggressive pressure or intimidation" coming from my side spanza May 2013 #29
Thanks Judy Lynn. polly7 Mar 2013 #2
Such great images. Thank you for posting this link here. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #4
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