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radicalliberal

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25. "those stereotypes you name; and I agree with your post-- but do they even really apply anymore?"
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 05:58 PM
Sep 2012

Yes, they do, unfortunately. Masculinity is still defined in terms of athletic prowess and physical strength. Nonathletic boys face problems growing up in a sports-crazed society. Unless they have a strong support system, they're likely to become resentful or develop self-hatred. When I was a boy, they were stigmatized as sissies and wimps. I know of no evidence of any change for the better today.

I've corresponded a number of times with Dr. William Van Ornum, the psychologist whose comment about the "sports wound" I've copied and pasted below. Incidentally, Dr. Van Ornum was a college athlete; so, his observations cannot be easily disregarded with the kneejerk "He's just jealous" dismissal.


http://americanmentalhealthfoundation.org/entry.php?id=135

[size=150]The Sports Wound and Bullying[/size]
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by Dr. William Van Ornum
May 12, 2010 8:19am[/size]




Many of the public and well as the mental health professions have never heard of the phrase "sports wound." This refers to males who do not display athletic prowess or good eye-hand coordination. As much as we may want to deny this, boys who lack sports ability often are teased and bullied through their growing up years. Yes, many coaches and physical education teachers are sensitive to this and intervene. But even if the teasing and bullying stops, the boy has received a message that he can't handle himself like the other boys in this situation.

Wise parents and teachers guide the youngster into pursuits where they have strengths or talents and can attain success. Judo, karate, scouts, non-competive sports, carpentry, archery, and many other venues offer boys with the "sports wound" a chance to succeed.

Historically boys with the "sports wound" have been teased as being homosexual. Whatever his sexual orientation, it is cruelty to be on the receiving end of such comments. And these hurtful words continue to be spoken on athletic fields and phys ed classes around the world.

Our society rewards athletes. When even the President of the United States, a man attuned to racism and prejudice, taunts retarded children by saying is low score in bowling was "like someone in the Olympics", we realize the strong and continuing presence of factors leading to the sports wounds.

We may tell children aout how many great high school athletes burn out right after high school and end up in menial jobs. But smart youngsters will also note the many highly successful men whose success is in heavy measure supported by the self-esteem and drive that comes from success in the athletic arena.

I wonder if this same sports wound phenomenon is happening to girls, now that there are so many girls sports. Intriguing. we need to watch for this, listen to the children, and obtain some data.

The "sports wound" shows us some of the sadnesses and paradoxes of a lack of athletic talent, and how many times thiis is associated with bullying and teasing which are strongly supported by attitudes putting athletic skills up on the pedastal.


Incidentally, I would add bodybuilding to Dr. Van Ornum's list of alternate pursuits for nonathletic boys. It's a great builder of self-confidence.
Definitely not. And I know I'm not the only one, either!! n/t HuskiesHowls Dec 2011 #1
Partly unassociated dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #2
That's not fair..... daleanime Dec 2011 #3
That's one of the reasons I avoid sad movies. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2011 #4
When I hear "sensitive men," my first question is 'Sensitive to what?' Taverner Dec 2011 #5
here qb Feb 2012 #6
*raises hand* tech_smythe Feb 2012 #7
No, it's not "macho assholes" that get laid more... The Doctor. Feb 2012 #10
teeth. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #8
Does 'getting misty-eyed' at 'macho crap' count? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #9
Macho has its place too. Bonobo Feb 2012 #11
Or chew bubble gum and kick ass Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #12
But in my experience the ones that act macho... Odin2005 Feb 2012 #13
Oh believe me I don't have a problem with well placed violence tech_smythe Feb 2012 #14
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Checking in, waves hi to my male colleagues nt steve2470 Mar 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Aug 2012 #17
Welcome to DU, and to the men's group. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #18
here are some traits that I consider "manly", above and beyond sensitive, which is one: Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #20
my duaghter would add being able to catch fish loli phabay Aug 2012 #22
I'd say with bare hands, particularly. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #23
nah noodling and the old splash method. loli phabay Aug 2012 #24
"those stereotypes you name; and I agree with your post-- but do they even really apply anymore?" radicalliberal Sep 2012 #25
Why would you think that I, or anyone else here, would respond to Dr. Van Ornum that way? Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #26
Hi, Warren! :-) radicalliberal Sep 2012 #27
Couple things, Bill. One, thanks for the detailed and thoughtful reply. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #28
i guess it depends what you cry at, getting whacked in the nuts is acceptable loli phabay Aug 2012 #19
Yes, but what if the tv show is "Ow, My Balls"? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #21
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