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In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Tuesday, 29 May 2012 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)12. Where Are the Missing 5 Million Workers? In the Underground Economy
http://www.alternet.org/story/155491/where_are_the_missing_5_million_workers_in_the_underground_economy?page=entire
The underground is always with us. For better and often for worse, its how marginalized populations tend to surviveoften not very well. Where have all the workers gone? David Wessel of the Wall Street Journal wondered about the labor force this week:
So, where have all the workers gone? Have they retired, suspended their labors temporarily or are they languishing on public assistance? asks Wessel.
There are some other possibilities. Since the crash of 2008, theres no question that millions of Americans have indeed stopped looking for a job. But that doesnt necessarily mean theyre not working. Look around, its much more likely that the officially unemployed are busy, doing their best to make ends meet in whatever ways they can. Sex work, drugs and crime spring to mind, but the underground or shadow economy includes all sorts of off-the-books toil. From baby-sitting, bartering, mending, kitchen-garden farming and selling goods in a yard sale, all sorts of peoplefrom the tamale seller on your corner, to the dancer who teaches yogaare all contributing to the underground economy along with the employed who pay them for their wares.
The underground is always with us. For better and often for worse, its how marginalized populations tend to surviveoften not very well. (Think of the old, the young, the formerly incarcerated or foreign.) In recessionssurprise, surpriseirregular employment grows. Consider recent stories from Greece about wageless public workers swapping skills and trading food for teaching. Austrian economist, Friedrich Schneider, an expert in underground economies, has documented a surge in shadow economy activity in 2009 and 2010 in Europe. University of WisconsinMadison economist Edgar Feige has been doing his best to follow whats happened here.
Tracking the gap between reported and unreported income in the United States since 1940, Feige finds:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fm_aT8-b7WE/TsEUsEO0xfI/AAAAAAAACIo/3K7AvOm0dXE/s1600/Screen+shot+2011-11-14+at+8.15.47+AM.png
Measuring unreported data is not easy, but from Feiges graph one thing is clear: theres as much unreported income swirling around the United States today as there was in WWII under rationing, and that numbers not going down with any speed.
Unreported income matters to the IRS because those unreported dollars are lost revenue for the taxman. (In 2001, the Internal Revenue Service estimates it was losing $345 billion in tax revenue. In 2009, according to Feige, that estimate could be approaching $600 billion.)
A shrinking workforce matters to policy makers too, as Wessel explains:
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The underground is always with us. For better and often for worse, its how marginalized populations tend to surviveoften not very well. Where have all the workers gone? David Wessel of the Wall Street Journal wondered about the labor force this week:
In the past two years, the number of people in the U.S. who are older than 16 (and not in the military or prison) has grown by 5.4 million. The number of people working or looking for work hasnt grown at all.
So, where have all the workers gone? Have they retired, suspended their labors temporarily or are they languishing on public assistance? asks Wessel.
There are some other possibilities. Since the crash of 2008, theres no question that millions of Americans have indeed stopped looking for a job. But that doesnt necessarily mean theyre not working. Look around, its much more likely that the officially unemployed are busy, doing their best to make ends meet in whatever ways they can. Sex work, drugs and crime spring to mind, but the underground or shadow economy includes all sorts of off-the-books toil. From baby-sitting, bartering, mending, kitchen-garden farming and selling goods in a yard sale, all sorts of peoplefrom the tamale seller on your corner, to the dancer who teaches yogaare all contributing to the underground economy along with the employed who pay them for their wares.
The underground is always with us. For better and often for worse, its how marginalized populations tend to surviveoften not very well. (Think of the old, the young, the formerly incarcerated or foreign.) In recessionssurprise, surpriseirregular employment grows. Consider recent stories from Greece about wageless public workers swapping skills and trading food for teaching. Austrian economist, Friedrich Schneider, an expert in underground economies, has documented a surge in shadow economy activity in 2009 and 2010 in Europe. University of WisconsinMadison economist Edgar Feige has been doing his best to follow whats happened here.
Tracking the gap between reported and unreported income in the United States since 1940, Feige finds:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fm_aT8-b7WE/TsEUsEO0xfI/AAAAAAAACIo/3K7AvOm0dXE/s1600/Screen+shot+2011-11-14+at+8.15.47+AM.png
Measuring unreported data is not easy, but from Feiges graph one thing is clear: theres as much unreported income swirling around the United States today as there was in WWII under rationing, and that numbers not going down with any speed.
Unreported income matters to the IRS because those unreported dollars are lost revenue for the taxman. (In 2001, the Internal Revenue Service estimates it was losing $345 billion in tax revenue. In 2009, according to Feige, that estimate could be approaching $600 billion.)
A shrinking workforce matters to policy makers too, as Wessel explains:
Figuring out how many of those now on the job-market sidelines are likely to come back onto the field matters to gauging the current state of the economy, to fashioning the right remedy for the sluggish recovery and to evaluating prospects for economic growth, which hinge, in part, on an expanding labor force.
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Does it bother anyone else that we always hear about these near hits long after
tclambert
May 2012
#14
This is where I've lived most of my life. When one of my businesses gets
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#21
There's a lot of us out here. I view also it as doing my part to avoid feeding the beast
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#46
I'm thinking about what a great start it would be for a shared community.
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#23
"The second is selling assets with high income that they can't replace."
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#24
Another financial murder mystery. These are the assholes that, either through corruption or
Egalitarian Thug
May 2012
#26
Europe flat amongst mexed missages but US futures looking rosy on this gloomy day
Roland99
May 2012
#25
Case-Shiller home price index unchanged in March (US futures still rising...DJIA +86)
Roland99
May 2012
#38
Being near retirement and being heavily invested in stocks/index funds is dangerous
Roland99
May 2012
#57