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In reply to the discussion: Weekend Economists Chart the Bradbury Chronicles, June 8-10,2012 [View all]DemReadingDU
(16,002 posts)93. John Michael Greer: Collapse Now and Avoid the Rush
6/6/12 Collapse Now and Avoid the Rush
As I write this weeks post, for example, its difficult not to notice some of the other voices in this particular conversation. The bookshelf an easy reach to my left has a row of brightly colored trade paperbacks by some of my fellow peak oil authorsWilliam Catton, Richard Heinberg, Jim Kunstler, Sharon Astyk, Dmitry Orlov, Carolyn Baker and more. Close by, the rolling brown landscape of Arnold Toynbees A Study of History, all ten volumes, confronts the twin black monoliths of Oswald Spenglers The Decline of the West, while Giambattista Vicos New Science offers an ironic Italian commentary from one side. Other shelves elsewhere in the room contribute other voices: biology and ecology textbooks from my college days; appropriate tech manuals from the Seventies brimfull of unfulfilled hopes; old texts on the magical philosophy that forms the usually unmentioned foundation from which all my thinking unfolds; and a great deal more. Poets, as often as not, these days: Robinson Jeffers, William Butler Yeats, T.S. Eliot. Without the contributions of all these other voices, the conversation and thus my contributions to it would not be what it is.
Still, there are times when the conversational nature of what Im doing becomes more obvious and more direct than usual, and one of those happened the weekend before last, at the Age of Limits conference I discussed in last weeks post. One of my presentations to that conference was a talk entitled "How Civilizations Fall;" longtime readers of this blog will know from the title that what I was talking about that afternoon was the theory of catabolic collapse, which outlines the way that human societies on the way down cannibalize their own infrastructure, maintaining themselves for the present by denying themselves a future. I finished talking about catabolic collapse and started fielding questions, of which there were plenty, and somewhere in the conversation that followed one of the other participants made a comment. I dont even remember the exact words, but it was something like, "So what youre saying is that what we need to do, individually, is to go through collapse right away."
"Exactly," I said. "Collapse now, and avoid the rush."
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Its difficult to think of anything more frightening, or more necessary. "In order to arrive at what you do not know"thats Eliot again"you must go by a way which is the way of ignorance. In order to possess what you do not possess, you must go by the way of dispossession." Which is to say: collapse now, and avoid the rush.
lots more (but not as long as Orlov's article)
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/collapse-now-and-avoid-rush.html
Ok, So I do try to live more simply, eat more simply, and buy less and less. However, spouse will say that we must drive and eat out more often now, because when the collapse comes, there won't be anyplace to go. lol
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