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4. EF-4. U.S. Stock Market as measured by the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Indus Avg
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:27 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Fri May 1, 2020, 11:18 AM - Edit history (35)

{#} U.S. Stock Market as measured by the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average

Tired of hearing the righties insist that, during the Obama years, companies were "too uncertain" to make investments? Well, the investor and business community sure seemed to like Obama, judging from the stock market. During the Obama administration, the S&P 500 index rose up 166% (that's more than a doubling -- it's a 2.66-fold increase). (It declined 37% during G.W. Bush's 8 years of supposed business friendly and resolute firmness and certainty).

# Current value / last close of Dow Jones Industrial Average, S&P 500, Nasdaq, Oil, Gold, 10-year treasury bond, the Euro : the top of the page at http://finance.yahoo.com

# Historic daily closing values of the Dow and S&P 500 from many many decades ago to the present:
. . # S&P 500: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EGSPC+Historical+Prices
. . # Dow Jones Industrial Average: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EDJI+Historical+Prices

# Using the last closing before inauguration (G.W. Bush inaugurated noon Jan 20, 2001; Obama at noon, Jan 20, 2009; and Trump at noon, Jan 20, 2017)
# When Clinton left office and G.W. Bush took office, the S&P 500 index was at 1343.
# When G.W. Bush left office and Obama took office, the S&P 500 index was at 850.
# When Obama left office and and Trump took office, the S&P 500 index was at 2264.
# Thus under G.W. Bush, the S&P 500 index DROPPED 37%, from 1343 to 850.
. . While under Obama, the S&P 500 index rose from 850 to 2264, an INCREASE of 166% (a doubling plus an additional 66%, or 2.66 X)

# As of Friday 2/7/20 close, the S&P 500 index is at 3328, an increase of 47% under Trump so far (in fairness, remember we're comparing Trump's 3 years to Obama and G.W. Bush's 8 years -- if Trump continued at the same rate for 8 years, his 8 year record would be ( 1.47^(8/3) - 1 )*100% = 179% increase. "^" is exponentiation. ).

# Another timepoint often cited: at the close on election day, November 8, 2016 (the last close before Trump's election was announced), the S&P 500 stood at 2140

(Total returns - which includes dividends - are higher than the index gains by about 2% / year).

(I use the S&P 500 index rather than the Dow Jones Industrial Average index (DJIA) because it is a much broader index of U.S. stocks, containing about 75% of the total U.S. stock market by capitalization. I would rather use the Dow Jones U.S. Total Stock Market Index (^ DWC (without the space between the ^ and the D) but its history extends only back to 2004). Other U.S. total market indexes also extend back only a few years.


If you want to use the Dow Jones Industrials Average index (a silly legacy price-weighted average of 30 stocks), ticker ^ DJI (without the space between the ^ and the D), it is:
. . Dow Jones Industrial Average: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EDJI+Historical+Prices

Jan 19, 2001 10,587 Last Dow close under Clinton

Jan 16, 2009 8,281 Last Dow close under Bush (a 22% DECLINE under Bush)

Jan 19, 2017 19,732 Last Dow close under Obama (a 138% INCREASE under Obama -- that's a doubling plus an additional 38%, or 2.38 X)

As of Thursday 2/7/20 close, the Dow is at 29,103, an increase of 47% under Trump so far. (remember we're comparing Trump's 3 years to Obama and G.W. Bush's 8 years each)

# Another timepoint often: at the close on election day, November 8, 2016 (the last close before Trump's election was announced), the Dow stood at 18,333

(Total returns - which includes dividends - are higher than the index gains by about 2 to 3 percent per year)


{#} Stock market gains 1929-2011: much higher under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents

Democrats: +460%, Republicans: +110% (in nominal dollar terms)
Democrats: +300%, Republicans: 0% (in inflation-adjusted terms)
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2012/10/live-chart?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/gopsmacked


S&P 500 performance under 6 presidents beginning with Reagan
https://twitter.com/rickwtyler/status/1161740031012352000
The above is a bit out of date-- at about Trump's 3 year anniversary (Feb 7, 2020 close actually), Trump's S&P 500 is up 47%.

Source article/details: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.htm


EF-1. Job Loss and Creation - Payroll Jobs progree Sep 2012 #1
EF-2. Unemployment Rate, Labor Force Participation Rate, Unemployment Insurance Claims progree Sep 2012 #2
EF-3. Recessions and Expansions - Official (NBER.org). Also GDP (Gross Domestic Product) progree Sep 2012 #3
EF-4. U.S. Stock Market as measured by the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Indus Avg progree Sep 2012 #4
EF-5. National Debt. Deficits and Surpluses progree Sep 2012 #5
EF-6. U.S. Dollar Index (DXY). Also, Oil Prices progree Sep 2012 #6
EF-7. In Progress (mostly Dem presidencies v. Repub presidencies) progree Oct 2012 #20
EF-8. In Progress - Some canned excerpts to use in the message board wars progree Dec 2012 #23
EF-9. Incomes and Inequality, Poverty, Inflation, Consumer Confidence progree Oct 2014 #31
EF-10. Definitions, Links progree Oct 2014 #32
#11 - Reserved for expansion and reordering n/t progree Oct 2014 #33
EF-U. Updates List, Updated 2/28/23 progree Feb 2020 #37
thanks so much for this. don't know why I didn't snap to the baby boomer NMDemDist2 Sep 2012 #7
Thanks for the thanks and slogging through it all. I just improved EF.2.'s readability a bit (same progree Sep 2012 #8
yeah, and the 2009 oilhole Teague rode in on Obama's coattails NMDemDist2 Sep 2012 #9
A lot of meaningful data and links to data. great post. A lot of work went into this! recommended,.. Bill USA Sep 2012 #10
Thanks for the link, I haven't seen it before, I added to CabCurious's 125170175 progree Sep 2012 #11
All numbers updated 10/7/12. Of particular interest is EF 1 and EF 2 - jobs -- updated for the progree Oct 2012 #12
Great stuff FogerRox Oct 2012 #13
Thanks. Some answers... progree Oct 2012 #15
Brackets, we used to have 67. Now we have 6. Not good at FogerRox Oct 2012 #16
Funny about oil prices, I disticntly remember $44 a barrel in the beginning of Reagans first term. FogerRox Oct 2012 #17
I've found some partial info, nothing comprehensive FogerRox Oct 2012 #18
Great resource! Hugin Oct 2012 #14
Kicking this for more eyes! beac Oct 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author progree Nov 2012 #21
Kicking, Reccing, and Bookmarking. Will spend some more time checking out the specifics, but Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #22
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Funny thing about "facts" ... Koios Aug 2013 #26
Should this be pinned? I think so. FogerRox Aug 2013 #27
A kick after 9 months of spending 3-4 hours per month quietly updating the numbers progree May 2014 #28
Kick for an update that took 1 1/2 days - hope you'll look at EF-0, the OP post progree Jul 2014 #29
9/6/14 update. Simplified EF-0 to include only the latest jobs report summary progree Sep 2014 #30
9/5/15 update, reorganization, and new pages added in the last few months progree Sep 2015 #34
5/6/16 update of all pages, 1st time in 4 months. Many years-old EF-5 numbers updated progree May 2016 #35
Updated most of it 2/2/18 -- covering Trump's first year progree Feb 2018 #36
A kick to keep it from falling into the archives - I have to do this about every 2 1/2 years progree Oct 2022 #38
Another kick. Might now be in the archive. Miss you progree, wherever you are question everything Mar 28 #39
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