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56. The End of Old Europe Why Merkel's Triumph Will Come at a High Price

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 01:00 PM

Dec 2011

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,803097,00.html

Everything was over after half an hour. At that point the summit, which was expected to be a historic one, had not even begun, and yet it was already clear that it would not end well.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy had met with British Prime Minister David Cameron at 7:30 p.m. on Thursday evening. Their goal was to determine how far Great Britain would be willing to go to support the German-French plans to save the euro.

Not very far, it would soon become clear.

Cameron demanded extensive exceptions for his country in the event that the European treaties would have to be amended. Most of all, however, he wanted the British financial sector not to be subject to European supervision. Merkel and Sarkozy quickly made it clear to Cameron that that would be unacceptable.

And so the summit, which was intended to be a turning point in the struggle to save the euro, ended up marking a major turning point in the history of the European Union. In the middle of its biggest crisis to date, the European Union is divided and Great Britain has been sidelined, possibly for the long term.

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STOCK MARKET WATCH, Monday, December 12, 2011 [View all] Hugin Dec 2011 OP

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The End of Old Europe Why Merkel's Triumph Will Come at a High Price xchrom Dec 2011 #56

Fascinating power play going on over there. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #75

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or, rather, the people BEHIND the politicians. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #94

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