Economy
In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH - Thursday, 5 January 2012 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)Whats ahead for 2012?.... The price of gold will probably go nowhere this year. We have a feeling that 2012 is not going to be a great year for money you get from the ground. Oddly, it will probably be a better year for the money you get from trees. How is that possible? We all know paper money is going to be worthless. Yes
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but not necessarily in 2012. Its just part of the curious way Mr. Market does business
and a feature of his nasty habit of ruining as many investors as possible. Look, its pretty simple. The private sector debt bubble blew up in 2008. The public sector debt bubble will blow up too. Maybe in 2012. Most likely not for a while longer. But when US debt begins to blow up, the feds will come in with everything theyve got trying to stop it. And all theyve got is a printing press. Ben Bernanke:
Positive inflation is the feds answer to a debt blow-up. They have no other answer When bond buyers refuse to roll over US debt at reasonable rates, the Fed will use its printing press. The resulting positive inflation will blow up the worlds monetary system as well as government debt. Gold will be the about the only money left.
So, we should just buy gold and avoid US dollar-denominated debt, right? Hold on. Mr. Market doesnt make it that easy. Our guess is that hes going to lure trillions more dollars into the US debt market and then blow the whole thing sky high. Just look what happened last year. Bloomberg tells us that stocks worldwide lost 12% of their value. But bonds actually went up about 6%. And theres a good chance that the same thing could happen in 2012. Stocks down. Bonds up. Stocks wont be cheap until they are about half todays prices. So they have a long way to go. When stocks go down, investors will go into the US bond market looking for shelter. This will drive down yields and drive up prices. And bonds judging from Japans example can keep edging upward for a long time. Especially now that everyone thinks US debt is 100% safe.
And the worse things get, the more people want the safety of US Treasury debt. That was the lesson of 2011. Like people buying houses in 2005 investors will buy bonds and think they are geniuses for a while. The feds are already running into the limits of their ability to borrow. Heres the Bloomberg story:
Led by Japans $3 trillion and the USs $2.8 trillion, the amount coming due for the Group of Seven nations and Brazil, Russia, India and China is up from $7.4 trillion at this time last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Ten-year bond yields will be higher by year-end for at least seven of the countries, forecasts show.
Investors may demand higher compensation to lend to countries that struggle to finance increasing debt burdens as the global economy slows, surveys show. The International Monetary Fund cut its forecast for growth this year to 4 percent from a prior estimate of 4.5 percent as Europes debt crisis spreads, the US struggles to reduce a budget deficit exceeding $1 trillion and Chinas property market cools.
The amount needing to be refinanced rises to more than $8 trillion when interest payments are included. Coming after a year in which Standard & Poors cut the USs rating to AA+ from AAA and put 15 European nations on notice for possible downgrades, the competition to find buyers is heating up.
Borrowing costs for G-7 nations will rise as much as 39 percent from 2011, based on forecasts of 10-year government bond yields by economists and strategists surveyed by Bloomberg in separate surveys. Chinas 10-year yields may remain little changed, while Indias are projected to fall to 8.02 percent from 8.36 percent. The survey doesnt include estimates for Russia and Brazil.
The worlds economic knees are beginning to buckle. Higher borrowing costs reduce the fiscal support governments can give to their economies. Austerity becomes less of a choice and more of a necessity. Europe is already in recession. America is probably not far behind. The feds may have to turn to the printing press sooner than we thought...
Read more: When the Public Sector Debt Bubble Blows Up http://dailyreckoning.com/when-the-public-sector-debt-bubble-blows-up/#ixzz1iaZNJARs