Debt may be a long term problem, but it certainly isn't an emergency

[Po_d Mainiac]

20. That wood be an option

or we could just hand out Blackberry's and car keys and let nature run its coarse.

OR

We could give 'productivity' another look, and maybe deal with the absurd differential between executive compensations and that of the work force.

R/E productivity, I'm literally looking at a job site that could have 10+ times the work force than currently employed. That site being a major power transmission line expansion, and the tree clearing associated with it. Instead of man power much of the labor is being done mechanically. Instead of wages, the expense is fuel and equipment costs. There is no savings, just a shift in expenses.

A good friend had a foundation installed in Central America a decade ago. He could get the job done in a day with an excavator, or a half dozen locals could do the job manually in a couple weeks. The expense was the same either way. He gave the locals the job.