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Dog Gone at Penigma

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10. Not at all - it is only necessary to establish that guns are part of some crime

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 06:01 PM

Dec 2012

It is not necessary to specify that shotguns or rifles are the greatest cause of crime. Handguns cause more murder and more injury than shotguns and rifles. The assertion by the NRA about baseball bats is ridiculous -- for example it misses the mark that there is a significant difference in the way ranged weapons are used compared to weapons - or sporting equipment - used in close quarters which exposes the user to equal harm.

But your argument is irrelevant; we have established that firearms are a problem. Therefore we are justified in attempting to limit that problem. I would direct your attention to the fact that the commerce clause is every bit as much a valid and equal - if not greater - art of the constitution than the 2nd amendment.

This is the economy group; please address the economics aspect of the discussion. Otherwise I have posted a variant of this article and related information on the gun group, if you want to continue your gun focused discussion there.

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guns and the social economics of mandatory liability insurance and taxation [View all] Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 OP

How about drone insurance? westerebus Dec 2012 #1

Do you own a drone that is weapons capable? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #14

No more than the OP wandered into the all inclusive guns be evil debate. westerebus Dec 2012 #20

you are incorrect Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #35

Already addressed the liability issue re: governmental immunity on par with uninsured motorist. westerebus Dec 2012 #36

FBI reports "Hands, fists, feet, etc." commit 5.7% of murders, Rifles and Shotguns for 5.4%. jody Dec 2012 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #3

Your problem is you believe guns create crime and the FACT that other things cause jody Dec 2012 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #5

1. NO. 2. where is economics in any way part of your contribution to this discussion? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #21

all guns should be both insured and taxed Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Dec 2012 #22

I"m one of the hosts for the economy group, so YES i will take on the 'moderator' role, as you call Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #24

Not at all - it is only necessary to establish that guns are part of some crime Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #10

You say "we have established that firearms are a problem" is as ridiculous as saying "we have jody Dec 2012 #13

not at all Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #25

There can be no economic effect if guns do not create crime. Fact is gun # has jody Dec 2012 #30

actually, let me amend that - it is not necessary to establish or prove crime at all to tax/insure Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #17

You have an OP problem it lumped all firearms together. nt jody Dec 2012 #6

That in NOT a problem Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #18

"Last warning" LOL Dog Gone at Penigma with 269 posts. nt jody Dec 2012 #19

are you being humorous? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #8

Murder is not humorous to me but proposals that are utterly ridiculous do have a sad humor to them jody Dec 2012 #11

violence is not humorous either Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #15

"on topic for this subject" after you answer #2 nt jody Dec 2012 #16

Any constitutionally protected right may not be impeded by taxation Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #7

not true Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #9

So we can have a poll tax then? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #29

false equivalency Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #31

We can pass an amendment for a poll tax then. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #33

In theory - yes Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #34

Should drinkers and drug users have liability insurance before being served? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #26

don't be silly Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #27

SOP Remmah2 Dec 2012 #28

and the 24th amendment outlawing any poll tax mean that there is no impediment to other taxation Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #32