Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
31. S&P is right about Europe
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2012/01/sp-is-right-about-europe/

The outcome of these downgrades are as follows:

Country____Old Rating___New Rating___Cut

Austria______AAA________AA+_______One notch, loses top rating
Belgium_______AA________AA________None
Cyprus_______BBB________BB+_______Two notches to junk
Estonia_______AA-_______AA-________None
Finland______AAA________AAA________None
France______AAA________AA+________One notch, loses top rating
Germany____AAA ________AAA________None
Ireland_____BBB+________BBB+_______None
Italy_________A_________BBB+_______Two notches
Luxembourg_AAA_________AAA________None
Malta________A___________A-________One notch
Netherlands_AAA_________AAA________None
Portugal____BBB-__________BB________Two notches to junk
Slovakia_____A+___________A_________One notch
Slovenia____AA-__________A+_________One notch
Spain ______AA-__________A__________Two notches

Given the performance of the rating agencies in the lead up to the GFC, and the corresponding fall out, it would be easy to set aside this news as yet another overzealous attempt by the industry to compensate for their poor performance during that period. I expect some market players to do just that, however in my opinion in this case that would be a mistake.

As Macrobusiness readers will know, my long running assessment of the European financial crisis is that the competiveness imbalance between the core and periphery is the major issue and, although some of the current policies being implemented are stated to be aimed at addressing this, the reality is that they are actually making the problem worse. The latest Spanish employment figures are once again a reminder that austerity policy aimed at already deflating economies in order to make them more competitive are in fact counter-productive. What we have seen and continue to see from the periphery nations is a not growth at all, but a reduction in industrial production and a rise in employment, and therefore a renewed burden on the government sector meaning its attempts to deleverage fail while the private sector weakens further....As I said in my weekend post the issues of Europe aren’t purely economic. What we have also seen over the last 2 years is economics wrapped in a political ideology. The idea that private sector players should somehow be immune to the fallout of the failings of the European monetary system even though many of those same players profited immensely from its rise. It is well known that if you purchase an equity share or an unsecured bond then you are rewarded with an interest rate that reflects that there is a risk that you may not get repaid. The riskier the investment the higher the compensation, it is quite simple really, yet for some reason the political-elite of Europe insist that these basic tenants of investment need not apply.

This ridiculous situation simply adds to the problems because nations that have no capacity to deleverage without deflating their real economic outputs, and therefore income, are being forced to meet their existing obligations. It is a simple fact that “bills that can’t be paid won’t be”, yet for some odd reason this message appears to be lost whenever an EU summit gathers. The fact is that without some form of large compensatory income non-competitive nations will not be able to meet their existing obligations under a regime of supra-European austerity. What is likely to occur, as has become even more evident in the most recent European PMIs, is that the core nations will be become relatively stronger, the weak weaker, but overall the whole economy of Europe will shrink. MORE

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

It's not my fault! I don't know what happened! Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #1
First rec! Warpy Jan 2012 #2
Doan tutch teh white space! Hugin Jan 2012 #3
Oh, those commands Demeter Jan 2012 #7
What commands? Demeter Jan 2012 #6
Well *I* don't have the day off n/t Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #23
Neither do I (sigh) Demeter Jan 2012 #25
These are the things I was talking about Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #44
Stop! I'm drooling on the keyboard Demeter Jan 2012 #46
Nice looking. Do they have a name? n/t Hotler Jan 2012 #48
This was a response to a PM exchange Demeter and I had earlier today. Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #50
Asian Markets don't look very happy this morning. Fuddnik Jan 2012 #4
Europe is barely red DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #5
Everybody Needs an Occupation! Demeter Jan 2012 #8
Occupy Wall Street: The Primary the President Never Had? AlterNet / By Matt Stoller Demeter Jan 2012 #9
Everyone’s housing market profits were fictitious Demeter Jan 2012 #10
PREQUEL: How Ed DeMarco finally cried fraud By Maureen Tkacik Demeter Jan 2012 #11
Home Seizures May Jump 25% This Year as U.S. Foreclosures Resume Demeter Jan 2012 #22
I just keeps getting better doesn't it? Hotler Jan 2012 #45
I thought the same thing DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #51
Fannie, Freddie overhaul unlikely Demeter Jan 2012 #24
It's Time for Debt Forgiveness, American-Style Demeter Jan 2012 #12
The A-List: Stephen King - The eurozone’s three deadly sins Demeter Jan 2012 #13
Bank results threaten to dash US hopes Demeter Jan 2012 #14
Greece’s creditors seek end to deadlock Demeter Jan 2012 #15
As Reforms Flag in Greece, Europe Aims to Limit Damage Demeter Jan 2012 #29
Greece dispatches officials to U.S., default fears grow xchrom Jan 2012 #40
Political failure casts a cloud on Europe Demeter Jan 2012 #16
well i'll be...it's morning. xchrom Jan 2012 #17
Gold futures gain in Asian trading xchrom Jan 2012 #18
Downgrading Europe: Why Analysts Say the S&P Debt Decision Could Have Been Much Worse Demeter Jan 2012 #19
Sarkozy promises more reform in wake of France credit ratings drop Demeter Jan 2012 #20
France Downgrade Creates Pressure for Merkel Demeter Jan 2012 #21
S&P is right about Europe Demeter Jan 2012 #31
Oil above $99 in Asia amid Middle East jitters Demeter Jan 2012 #26
Brent rises above $111 as Iran warns Gulf exporters Demeter Jan 2012 #27
When You're 66: A Checklist on Social Security and Medicare Demeter Jan 2012 #28
Sarkozy to meet Spain's PM amid euro woes xchrom Jan 2012 #30
India opens stock market to foreigners xchrom Jan 2012 #32
Small Is Still Beautiful xchrom Jan 2012 #33
Sure they are: GE, BP, GS and the like Demeter Jan 2012 #43
JPM Chase Quietly Halts Suits Over Consumer Debts Demeter Jan 2012 #34
The five stages of economic grief Demeter Jan 2012 #35
Troubled RI city in receivership loses democracy Demeter Jan 2012 #36
A CLEAR CASE OF USE IT OR LOSE IT Demeter Jan 2012 #37
very interesting. nt xchrom Jan 2012 #38
I see this happening to more municipalities DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #42
The I have mine fuck everyone else attitude. Hotler Jan 2012 #47
Update that--doesn't look like it will wait for March anymore Demeter Jan 2012 #49
Role reversal: Employers say they can't find workers {comments are interesting - feisty } xchrom Jan 2012 #39
Nikkei hits 4-week closing low on Europe worries xchrom Jan 2012 #41
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Economy»STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Mon...»Reply #31