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In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)6. Get Angela’s Number: The Indiscreet Charm of the N.S.A. by Amy Davidson
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/10/the-indiscreet-charm-of-the-nsa.html?utm_source=tny&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weeklyemail&mbid=nl_Weekly%20%2816%29
It has become painfully clear that what the National Security Agency lacks, above all, is discretion. That probably occurred to President Obama on Wednesday, when he got on the line with Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, who was calling with what was apparently unmitigated anger to ask why the N.S.A. was monitoring her cell phone. Obama told her that it isnt, or wonta wasnt seems to have been missingbut Merkels government had seen enough, in N.S.A. documents obtained by the German news magazine Der Spiegel, to know what it thought. (According to Reuters, one listed her mobile phone number.) Obama had a similar call with Frances François Hollande, and may have about thirty-three more, based on the latest Guardian report on the number of heads of state whose phones it tracked. But the N.S.A.s wildly indiscreet character had already come well into the light in the first documents leaked, this summer, by Edward Snowden, about its mass, often indiscriminate collection of American telephone and Web communications. The Agency moves broadly and clumsily; its greedy in a way that is unhealthy; it tells itself that rules can mean what it wants them to mean; it is a poor judge of people; it has no real discernmentand that, for a spy agency, may be the worst part of all...
Arent spy agencies meant to be indiscreetto look at hidden things, wherever they are, and never mind politeness? Isnt that what spies do? Not exactly, or not unless we are talking about the sort of Stasi-like secret service whose role is as much or more to intimidate and stifle discourse as to actually learn anything. Merkel, who grew up in the former East Germany and exposed herself by taking part in the protests that brought that regime down, may have had that sort of spying in mind. Spying on friendsthats not how it goes, Merkel said. Her spokesperson called it a a grave breach of trust.
Of course the United States gathers intelligence on Germany; of course it must. But that does not mean that we have a free pass to sweep up every last bit of data, from whatever source, and expect that there wont be consequences. We dont send agents to lurk behind every foreigner we see, no matter what we might learn. (And its worth imagining the reaction if the Germans were monitoring Obamas phone.) If we grant ourselves the prerogative to listen in on foreign leaders, then we cant really mind if they decide they have the right to be outraged about itand to share less information voluntarily, to be less good friends themselves. That may have begun: leaders at an E.U. summit Friday issued a statement saying that a lack of trust could prejudice the necessary cooperation in the field of intelligence-gathering.
The Obama Administration may have belatedly realized this (thanks, as with many recent necessary conversations, to the Snowden leaks). In an op-ed in USA Today, Lisa Monaco, the White House counterterrorism adviser, wrote that the President has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities, including with respect to our foreign partners. We want to ensure we are collecting information because we need it and not just because we can....The N.S.A.s mandate is confined to gathering foreign intelligence; it is supposed to look away from Americans. That doesnt mean it gets to stop thinking sensibly whenever it crosses a border. (Or ignore the way that pulling Internet traffic from, say, a transatlantic cable elides the difference.) Domestically, the Snowden papers show the N.S.A. being careless with our civil rights; internationally, they reveal that the Agency has recklessly disregarded the effect its work might have on diplomatic relations and the view of America in the world. Those are important to our safety, too.
The Germans are not being crazy. And their reaction does not seem to just be for show. Der Spiegel hadcarefully, judiciouslygone to the Merkel government for comment before publishing a story about the phone monitoring. Far from asking the reporters to be quiet, or staying quiet themselves, officials immediately issued their own outraged statement. Many Germans had been bothered by Merkels relative quiescence about earlier rounds of N.S.A. revelations, and noted the change of tone. Now that she herself was a target, the Chancellor had no intention of being discreet.
It has become painfully clear that what the National Security Agency lacks, above all, is discretion. That probably occurred to President Obama on Wednesday, when he got on the line with Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, who was calling with what was apparently unmitigated anger to ask why the N.S.A. was monitoring her cell phone. Obama told her that it isnt, or wonta wasnt seems to have been missingbut Merkels government had seen enough, in N.S.A. documents obtained by the German news magazine Der Spiegel, to know what it thought. (According to Reuters, one listed her mobile phone number.) Obama had a similar call with Frances François Hollande, and may have about thirty-three more, based on the latest Guardian report on the number of heads of state whose phones it tracked. But the N.S.A.s wildly indiscreet character had already come well into the light in the first documents leaked, this summer, by Edward Snowden, about its mass, often indiscriminate collection of American telephone and Web communications. The Agency moves broadly and clumsily; its greedy in a way that is unhealthy; it tells itself that rules can mean what it wants them to mean; it is a poor judge of people; it has no real discernmentand that, for a spy agency, may be the worst part of all...
Arent spy agencies meant to be indiscreetto look at hidden things, wherever they are, and never mind politeness? Isnt that what spies do? Not exactly, or not unless we are talking about the sort of Stasi-like secret service whose role is as much or more to intimidate and stifle discourse as to actually learn anything. Merkel, who grew up in the former East Germany and exposed herself by taking part in the protests that brought that regime down, may have had that sort of spying in mind. Spying on friendsthats not how it goes, Merkel said. Her spokesperson called it a a grave breach of trust.
Of course the United States gathers intelligence on Germany; of course it must. But that does not mean that we have a free pass to sweep up every last bit of data, from whatever source, and expect that there wont be consequences. We dont send agents to lurk behind every foreigner we see, no matter what we might learn. (And its worth imagining the reaction if the Germans were monitoring Obamas phone.) If we grant ourselves the prerogative to listen in on foreign leaders, then we cant really mind if they decide they have the right to be outraged about itand to share less information voluntarily, to be less good friends themselves. That may have begun: leaders at an E.U. summit Friday issued a statement saying that a lack of trust could prejudice the necessary cooperation in the field of intelligence-gathering.
The Obama Administration may have belatedly realized this (thanks, as with many recent necessary conversations, to the Snowden leaks). In an op-ed in USA Today, Lisa Monaco, the White House counterterrorism adviser, wrote that the President has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities, including with respect to our foreign partners. We want to ensure we are collecting information because we need it and not just because we can....The N.S.A.s mandate is confined to gathering foreign intelligence; it is supposed to look away from Americans. That doesnt mean it gets to stop thinking sensibly whenever it crosses a border. (Or ignore the way that pulling Internet traffic from, say, a transatlantic cable elides the difference.) Domestically, the Snowden papers show the N.S.A. being careless with our civil rights; internationally, they reveal that the Agency has recklessly disregarded the effect its work might have on diplomatic relations and the view of America in the world. Those are important to our safety, too.
The Germans are not being crazy. And their reaction does not seem to just be for show. Der Spiegel hadcarefully, judiciouslygone to the Merkel government for comment before publishing a story about the phone monitoring. Far from asking the reporters to be quiet, or staying quiet themselves, officials immediately issued their own outraged statement. Many Germans had been bothered by Merkels relative quiescence about earlier rounds of N.S.A. revelations, and noted the change of tone. Now that she herself was a target, the Chancellor had no intention of being discreet.
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