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In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH - Friday, 17 February 2012 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)9. Noam Chomsky: America's Decline Is Real -- and Increasingly Self-Inflicted
http://www.alternet.org/world/154133/noam_chomsky%3a_america%27s_decline_is_real_--_and_increasingly_self-inflicted%20?page=entire
Noam Chomsky on how America "lost" the world....
At the moment, we are failing to commemorate the 50th anniversary of President John F. Kennedys decision to launch the most destructive and murderous act of aggression of the post-World War II period: the invasion of South Vietnam, later all of Indochina, leaving millions dead and four countries devastated, with casualties still mounting from the long-term effects of drenching South Vietnam with some of the most lethal carcinogens known, undertaken to destroy ground cover and food crops.
The prime target was South Vietnam. The aggression later spread to the North, then to the remote peasant society of northern Laos, and finally to rural Cambodia, which was bombed at the stunning level of all allied air operations in the Pacific region during World War II, including the two atom bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In this, Henry Kissingers orders were being carried out -- anything that flies on anything that moves -- a call for genocide that is rare in the historical record. Little of this is remembered. Most was scarcely known beyond narrow circles of activists. When the invasion was launched 50 years ago, concern was so slight that there were few efforts at justification, hardly more than the presidents impassioned plea that we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence and if the conspiracy achieves its ends in Laos and Vietnam, the gates will be opened wide. Elsewhere, he warned further that the complacent, the self-indulgent, the soft societies are about to be swept away with the debris of history [and] only the strong... can possibly survive, in this case reflecting on the failure of U.S. aggression and terror to crush Cuban independence.
By the time protest began to mount half a dozen years later, the respected Vietnam specialist and military historian Bernard Fall, no dove, forecast that Vietnam as a cultural and historic entity is threatened with extinction...[as]...the countryside literally dies under the blows of the largest military machine ever unleashed on an area of this size. He was again referring to South Vietnam. When the war ended eight horrendous years later, mainstream opinion was divided between those who described the war as a noble cause that could have been won with more dedication, and at the opposite extreme, the critics, to whom it was a mistake that proved too costly. By 1977, President Carter aroused little notice when he explained that we owe Vietnam no debt because the destruction was mutual.
There are important lessons in all this for today, even apart from another reminder that only the weak and defeated are called to account for their crimes. One lesson is that to understand what is happening we should attend not only to critical events of the real world, often dismissed from history, but also to what leaders and elite opinion believe, however tinged with fantasy. Another lesson is that alongside the flights of fancy concocted to terrify and mobilize the public (and perhaps believed by some who are trapped in their own rhetoric), there is also geostrategic planning based on principles that are rational and stable over long periods because they are rooted in stable institutions and their concerns. That is true in the case of Vietnam as well. I will return to that, only stressing here that the persistent factors in state action are generally well concealed.
MUCH MORE AT LINK...HE'S WORDY, BUT IT'S USUALLY WORTH THE READ
...American decline is real, though the apocalyptic vision reflects the familiar ruling class perception that anything short of total control amounts to total disaster. Despite the piteous laments, the U.S. remains the world dominant power by a large margin, and no competitor is in sight, not only in the military dimension, in which of course the U.S. reigns supreme...Planners were naturally well aware of the enormous disparity of power (AFTER WWII), and intended to keep it that way...
Noam Chomsky on how America "lost" the world....
At the moment, we are failing to commemorate the 50th anniversary of President John F. Kennedys decision to launch the most destructive and murderous act of aggression of the post-World War II period: the invasion of South Vietnam, later all of Indochina, leaving millions dead and four countries devastated, with casualties still mounting from the long-term effects of drenching South Vietnam with some of the most lethal carcinogens known, undertaken to destroy ground cover and food crops.
The prime target was South Vietnam. The aggression later spread to the North, then to the remote peasant society of northern Laos, and finally to rural Cambodia, which was bombed at the stunning level of all allied air operations in the Pacific region during World War II, including the two atom bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In this, Henry Kissingers orders were being carried out -- anything that flies on anything that moves -- a call for genocide that is rare in the historical record. Little of this is remembered. Most was scarcely known beyond narrow circles of activists. When the invasion was launched 50 years ago, concern was so slight that there were few efforts at justification, hardly more than the presidents impassioned plea that we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence and if the conspiracy achieves its ends in Laos and Vietnam, the gates will be opened wide. Elsewhere, he warned further that the complacent, the self-indulgent, the soft societies are about to be swept away with the debris of history [and] only the strong... can possibly survive, in this case reflecting on the failure of U.S. aggression and terror to crush Cuban independence.
By the time protest began to mount half a dozen years later, the respected Vietnam specialist and military historian Bernard Fall, no dove, forecast that Vietnam as a cultural and historic entity is threatened with extinction...[as]...the countryside literally dies under the blows of the largest military machine ever unleashed on an area of this size. He was again referring to South Vietnam. When the war ended eight horrendous years later, mainstream opinion was divided between those who described the war as a noble cause that could have been won with more dedication, and at the opposite extreme, the critics, to whom it was a mistake that proved too costly. By 1977, President Carter aroused little notice when he explained that we owe Vietnam no debt because the destruction was mutual.
There are important lessons in all this for today, even apart from another reminder that only the weak and defeated are called to account for their crimes. One lesson is that to understand what is happening we should attend not only to critical events of the real world, often dismissed from history, but also to what leaders and elite opinion believe, however tinged with fantasy. Another lesson is that alongside the flights of fancy concocted to terrify and mobilize the public (and perhaps believed by some who are trapped in their own rhetoric), there is also geostrategic planning based on principles that are rational and stable over long periods because they are rooted in stable institutions and their concerns. That is true in the case of Vietnam as well. I will return to that, only stressing here that the persistent factors in state action are generally well concealed.
MUCH MORE AT LINK...HE'S WORDY, BUT IT'S USUALLY WORTH THE READ
...American decline is real, though the apocalyptic vision reflects the familiar ruling class perception that anything short of total control amounts to total disaster. Despite the piteous laments, the U.S. remains the world dominant power by a large margin, and no competitor is in sight, not only in the military dimension, in which of course the U.S. reigns supreme...Planners were naturally well aware of the enormous disparity of power (AFTER WWII), and intended to keep it that way...
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