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In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Thursday, 1 March 2012 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)10. Yet Another Mortgage Scam: Homeowners Not Getting Cancelled Notes After Foreclosures
Yet Another Mortgage Scam: Homeowners Not Getting Cancelled Notes After Foreclosures, Hit by Later Claims
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As weve discussed the wheres the note? problem of mortgage securitizations, some readers who are old enough to have sold a home more than once have said that while theyd gotten a cancelled mortgage note back on their first sale, on a more recent one, they hadnt. They were concerned, and as this post will show, they are right to be.
By way of background, the popular press has done the public a disservice by talking about mortgages. A mortgage consists of two instruments: a promissory note, which is a IOU, and a lien against the property, which is referred to as a mortgage (in non-judicial foreclosure states, they are typically called a deed of trust and confer somewhat different rights, but well put that aside for purposes of this discussion).
What appears to be happening on all too often in Florida is that when borrowers signed warranty deeds in lieu of foreclosure when they can no longer keep these homes, they often get only a satisfaction of mortgage, not a cancelled note. This is not what is supposed to happen. When a borrower deeds his property to the bank, the objective of the exercise is to cancel the debt. If the note has not been extinguished, it is referred to as a zombie note. As the Fort Myers News-Press reported last year:
Carol Kaplan, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based American Bankers Association, said leaving the note off the satisfaction of mortgage is not a practice weve ever heard of.
Turns out thats a bit disingenuous. The article quoted Jack Williams, resident scholar at the American Bankruptcy Institute and a bankruptcy professor at Georgia State University:
BUT WAIT! IT GETS WORSE! SEE LINK FOR MORE
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/yet-another-mortgage-scam-homeowners-not-getting-cancelled-notes-after-foreclosures-hit-by-later-claims.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29
As weve discussed the wheres the note? problem of mortgage securitizations, some readers who are old enough to have sold a home more than once have said that while theyd gotten a cancelled mortgage note back on their first sale, on a more recent one, they hadnt. They were concerned, and as this post will show, they are right to be.
By way of background, the popular press has done the public a disservice by talking about mortgages. A mortgage consists of two instruments: a promissory note, which is a IOU, and a lien against the property, which is referred to as a mortgage (in non-judicial foreclosure states, they are typically called a deed of trust and confer somewhat different rights, but well put that aside for purposes of this discussion).
What appears to be happening on all too often in Florida is that when borrowers signed warranty deeds in lieu of foreclosure when they can no longer keep these homes, they often get only a satisfaction of mortgage, not a cancelled note. This is not what is supposed to happen. When a borrower deeds his property to the bank, the objective of the exercise is to cancel the debt. If the note has not been extinguished, it is referred to as a zombie note. As the Fort Myers News-Press reported last year:
Carol Kaplan, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based American Bankers Association, said leaving the note off the satisfaction of mortgage is not a practice weve ever heard of.
Turns out thats a bit disingenuous. The article quoted Jack Williams, resident scholar at the American Bankruptcy Institute and a bankruptcy professor at Georgia State University:
We saw something very similar to this in the debacle in the 80s, people buying notes from the government and suing, Williams said. I wont rule out that could happen again. They sold the note to collection agencies and law firms and places like that.
In the real estate meltdown of the 80s, he said, it was the Resolution Trust Corp., set up by the federal government to liquidate mortgage loans and other real estate assets held by failed savings and loan associations.
Let me tell you, people made millions of dollars suing homeowners back in the day, Williams said.
Some of the debt was in the form of deficiency notes: court judgments saying a certain amount was owed even after the property was sold at public auction.
But in other cases, Williams said, it was the note, straight up.
In the real estate meltdown of the 80s, he said, it was the Resolution Trust Corp., set up by the federal government to liquidate mortgage loans and other real estate assets held by failed savings and loan associations.
Let me tell you, people made millions of dollars suing homeowners back in the day, Williams said.
Some of the debt was in the form of deficiency notes: court judgments saying a certain amount was owed even after the property was sold at public auction.
But in other cases, Williams said, it was the note, straight up.
BUT WAIT! IT GETS WORSE! SEE LINK FOR MORE
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