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In reply to the discussion: Weekend Economists Clean Out Davy Jones' Locker, March 2-4, 2012 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)27. Pity the Poor Judges By: Cynthia Kouril
http://my.firedoglake.com/cindykouril/2012/02/27/pity-the-poor-judges/
Now that the 49 State AG settlement has immunized manufacturing evidence, forgery and perjury, its going to be a lot tougher to be a judge. After all, how can you ever rule on a motion based upon affidavits and documentary evidence if its now OK to lie and to manufacture phony documents? Will judges need to take courses in document forensics in order to rule on simple motions? Or will courts become even more clogged, because each affiant must be made to appear and confirm their own knowledge of the evidence in their affidavits or even that their own signature appears on the document? Will every motion now necessitate a mini trial?
This settlement corrupts the court system completely. That or it bogs it down to a point where the cost of litigation, no bargain to begin with, will become out of reach of all but the billionaires. Think about it, if every bit of testimony on every matter, including pre-trial motions, must be had live and in court to avoid perjured and forged documents; the costs of litigation increases by orders of magnitude. In that case, this settlement screws the banks themselves. Honest judges will no longer be able to accept their motions for Summary Judgment in foreclosure cases and will be forced to make the banks produce the affiants in court to testify from their own knowledge. Since these affiants are usually nowhere near the states where their affidavits are used, the travel costs alone will make the cost of foreclosing on an average house prohibitive.
No, I dont think the formerly hold out AGs are playing eleventy dimensional chess. They sold out, got played, whatever. Yet most judges didnt become judges because they wanted to deliberately mete out injustice. Most judges dont want to give a verdict to a party that lacks standing. Most judges dont want to see the judicial branch held in the same dismal light as Congress and many of the state legislatures. Time and time again, when things have gone crazy in the legislative and/or executive branches, it has fallen to the judicial branch to set things back on course. We see that with judicial rejections of regulatory settlements that render the settling agency a joke and expose its corruption by regulatory capture. We see that with judges who force the affiants to come to court to testify from their own knowledge {those are the foreclosure cases that tend to get dismissed}.
The alternative is for the judges to acquiesce to allowing forged and perjured documents in their courts. This creates its own momentum. If its OK to use forged and perjured documents in mortgage contract cases, then why not in other contract cases? Docx and LPS can expand their business model. If its OK in contract cases, what about other kinds of cases? How about opening up a new robo-signing operation to manufacture false business records to give criminal defendants alibis? Instead of a lost promissory note affidavit as we currently have, how about a lost surveillance tape affidavit? It could say something along the lines of at the time defendant is alleged to have committed the murder, our surveillance tapes show him to have been working the fry-o-lator at Y burger franchise in X city. That tape has been lost or taped over, but before that happened, the undersigned viewed that tape and can confirm the defendants alibi.
There you go. Alibi affidavits on demand, courtesy of your lucrative robo-signing document mill.The possibilities are endless: forged wills, forged bills of sale, forged identity documents (ending the problem of undocumented immigrants). You name it, if it can be proven in court by affidavit or assignment or allonge, you can do it with phony documents. MORE AT LINK
THIS ARGUMENT IS KNOWN AS REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM: a form of argument in which a proposition is disproven by following its implications logically to an absurd consequence, AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE EXISTENCE OF SCALIA, THOMAS AND ROBERTS, I'D ACCEPT IT.
BUT AS IT STANDS TODAY, I'D ACCEPT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE JUDICIARY IN THIS COUNTRY IS AS PRONE TO CORRUPTION AS THE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE AND BUSINESS COMMUNITIES. WE ARE NO LONGER A NATION OF LAWS. ADJUST YOUR PLANS TO EITHER COPE, OR TO END THE CORRUPTION.
CYNTHIA CONTINUES:
WAIT A MINUTE! I just thought of something, if it is now acceptable to use forged and perjurious documents in foreclosure cases, DOCX, LPS and the other document mills have a huge new market available to them with homeowners. If forged and backdated allonges and assignments are OK, so too should be forged Satisfactions of Mortgage. Once the homeowner obtains a forged SAT from a document mill and files it with the county clerk, in theory, shouldnt their foreclosure case be dismissed?
I take it all back, those state AGs really did provide meaningful relief for homeowners, at least for homeowners willing to commit fraud on the court. Now to pry my tongue out of my cheek.
Now that the 49 State AG settlement has immunized manufacturing evidence, forgery and perjury, its going to be a lot tougher to be a judge. After all, how can you ever rule on a motion based upon affidavits and documentary evidence if its now OK to lie and to manufacture phony documents? Will judges need to take courses in document forensics in order to rule on simple motions? Or will courts become even more clogged, because each affiant must be made to appear and confirm their own knowledge of the evidence in their affidavits or even that their own signature appears on the document? Will every motion now necessitate a mini trial?
This settlement corrupts the court system completely. That or it bogs it down to a point where the cost of litigation, no bargain to begin with, will become out of reach of all but the billionaires. Think about it, if every bit of testimony on every matter, including pre-trial motions, must be had live and in court to avoid perjured and forged documents; the costs of litigation increases by orders of magnitude. In that case, this settlement screws the banks themselves. Honest judges will no longer be able to accept their motions for Summary Judgment in foreclosure cases and will be forced to make the banks produce the affiants in court to testify from their own knowledge. Since these affiants are usually nowhere near the states where their affidavits are used, the travel costs alone will make the cost of foreclosing on an average house prohibitive.
No, I dont think the formerly hold out AGs are playing eleventy dimensional chess. They sold out, got played, whatever. Yet most judges didnt become judges because they wanted to deliberately mete out injustice. Most judges dont want to give a verdict to a party that lacks standing. Most judges dont want to see the judicial branch held in the same dismal light as Congress and many of the state legislatures. Time and time again, when things have gone crazy in the legislative and/or executive branches, it has fallen to the judicial branch to set things back on course. We see that with judicial rejections of regulatory settlements that render the settling agency a joke and expose its corruption by regulatory capture. We see that with judges who force the affiants to come to court to testify from their own knowledge {those are the foreclosure cases that tend to get dismissed}.
The alternative is for the judges to acquiesce to allowing forged and perjured documents in their courts. This creates its own momentum. If its OK to use forged and perjured documents in mortgage contract cases, then why not in other contract cases? Docx and LPS can expand their business model. If its OK in contract cases, what about other kinds of cases? How about opening up a new robo-signing operation to manufacture false business records to give criminal defendants alibis? Instead of a lost promissory note affidavit as we currently have, how about a lost surveillance tape affidavit? It could say something along the lines of at the time defendant is alleged to have committed the murder, our surveillance tapes show him to have been working the fry-o-lator at Y burger franchise in X city. That tape has been lost or taped over, but before that happened, the undersigned viewed that tape and can confirm the defendants alibi.
There you go. Alibi affidavits on demand, courtesy of your lucrative robo-signing document mill.The possibilities are endless: forged wills, forged bills of sale, forged identity documents (ending the problem of undocumented immigrants). You name it, if it can be proven in court by affidavit or assignment or allonge, you can do it with phony documents. MORE AT LINK
THIS ARGUMENT IS KNOWN AS REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM: a form of argument in which a proposition is disproven by following its implications logically to an absurd consequence, AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE EXISTENCE OF SCALIA, THOMAS AND ROBERTS, I'D ACCEPT IT.
BUT AS IT STANDS TODAY, I'D ACCEPT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE JUDICIARY IN THIS COUNTRY IS AS PRONE TO CORRUPTION AS THE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE AND BUSINESS COMMUNITIES. WE ARE NO LONGER A NATION OF LAWS. ADJUST YOUR PLANS TO EITHER COPE, OR TO END THE CORRUPTION.
CYNTHIA CONTINUES:
WAIT A MINUTE! I just thought of something, if it is now acceptable to use forged and perjurious documents in foreclosure cases, DOCX, LPS and the other document mills have a huge new market available to them with homeowners. If forged and backdated allonges and assignments are OK, so too should be forged Satisfactions of Mortgage. Once the homeowner obtains a forged SAT from a document mill and files it with the county clerk, in theory, shouldnt their foreclosure case be dismissed?
I take it all back, those state AGs really did provide meaningful relief for homeowners, at least for homeowners willing to commit fraud on the court. Now to pry my tongue out of my cheek.
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