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In reply to the discussion: Weekend Economists Clean Out Davy Jones' Locker, March 2-4, 2012 [View all]xchrom
(108,903 posts)60. since this is and will affect the economy and markets: Iran, threats and the UN Charter
http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/
The Washington Posts David Ignatius today persuasively argues that President Obama, in his interview with The Atlantics Jeffrey Goldberg, issued his most absolute and inflexible threat yet to attack Iran not if Iran attacks or is about to attack another country, but merely if it appears to be developing a nuclear weapon:
'The other point that struck me was Obamas clarity about establishing a red line between an Iranian civilian nuclear program (acceptable) and a weapons program (unacceptable). . . . His message to Israel: If the Iranians cross this red line, the United States will attack. . . . Is Obama bluffing? Who can say, but if youre an Iranian decision maker (or, perhaps more important, Netanyahu) you have to weigh a bit more heavily the possibility that the president really does mean what he says.'
And that is indeed what Obama did, as Goldberg makes clear in describing the interview:
'Obama told me earlier this week that both Iran and Israel should take seriously the possibility of American action against Irans nuclear facilities. I think that the Israeli government recognizes that, as president of the United States, I dont bluff. . . . I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say. . . . In the interview, Obama stated specifically that all options are on the table, and that the final option is the military component.'
Regardless of how one wants to rationalize these threats of an offensive military attack theyre necessary to persuade the Israelis not to attack, theyre necessary to gain leverage with Iran, etc. the U.N. Charter, to which the U.S. is a signatory, explicitly prohibits not just a military attack on another nation, but also the issuance of threats of such an attack. From Chapter II, paragraph 4:
'All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.'
Does this matter at all? Should we even pretend to care in any way what the U.N. Charter prohibits and whether the U.S. Governments threats to attack Iran directly violate its core provisions? Im not asking this simple question rhetorically but rather to hear the answer.
The Washington Posts David Ignatius today persuasively argues that President Obama, in his interview with The Atlantics Jeffrey Goldberg, issued his most absolute and inflexible threat yet to attack Iran not if Iran attacks or is about to attack another country, but merely if it appears to be developing a nuclear weapon:
'The other point that struck me was Obamas clarity about establishing a red line between an Iranian civilian nuclear program (acceptable) and a weapons program (unacceptable). . . . His message to Israel: If the Iranians cross this red line, the United States will attack. . . . Is Obama bluffing? Who can say, but if youre an Iranian decision maker (or, perhaps more important, Netanyahu) you have to weigh a bit more heavily the possibility that the president really does mean what he says.'
And that is indeed what Obama did, as Goldberg makes clear in describing the interview:
'Obama told me earlier this week that both Iran and Israel should take seriously the possibility of American action against Irans nuclear facilities. I think that the Israeli government recognizes that, as president of the United States, I dont bluff. . . . I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say. . . . In the interview, Obama stated specifically that all options are on the table, and that the final option is the military component.'
Regardless of how one wants to rationalize these threats of an offensive military attack theyre necessary to persuade the Israelis not to attack, theyre necessary to gain leverage with Iran, etc. the U.N. Charter, to which the U.S. is a signatory, explicitly prohibits not just a military attack on another nation, but also the issuance of threats of such an attack. From Chapter II, paragraph 4:
'All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.'
Does this matter at all? Should we even pretend to care in any way what the U.N. Charter prohibits and whether the U.S. Governments threats to attack Iran directly violate its core provisions? Im not asking this simple question rhetorically but rather to hear the answer.
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