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17. Most people don't own the entire market. They own individual stocks and/or several mutual
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 11:07 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Tue Aug 11, 2020, 12:44 AM - Edit history (1)

funds (and/or ETFs), only a portion of which might be a total U.S. stock market index fund and/or an S&P 500 index fund (which is close to a total U.S. stock market fund in composition and performance).

So some are going to do better, and some worse.

The conventional wisdom was that the Dow 30, being select "blue chip" stocks, was a less volatile and safer piece of the overall market. Turns out that at least as far as avoiding long recovery times, it wasn't such a safe group of stocks.

Nowadays some think that MOAT stocks and/or value stocks are a safer group of stocks than the overall market. And afficionados of the various segments of the market all have their euphoric narratives.

There are no guarantees of a short recovery time for every equity investment, even highly diversified ones. Especially beginning with runaway P/E ratios.

Q1 S&P 500 Earnings per share:
2017 Q1: 27.46,
2018 Q1: 33.02,
2019 Q1: 35.02,
2020 Q1: 11.88 👀 😲
https://ycharts.com/indicators/sp_500_eps

We don't have the full Q2 earnings yet. But likely to be a lot worse, given that Q1 GDP declined by 5%, and Q2 GDP declined by 32.9% (both on an annualized rate basis. The actual GDP drops were Q1: 1.3%, Q2: 9.5%). So it would be pretty much impossible for Q2 earnings to be anything but a lot worse than Q1 earnings.


It will be interesting to see an excuse for the Japanese stock market.

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My tinfoil hat theory.. cilla4progress Aug 2020 #1
Well, one thing no one has mentioned is that the Market is looking forward to a big Biden victory. Hoyt Aug 2020 #2
Answer: $6 Trillion Bailout OneBro Aug 2020 #3
Look at the composition of the indexes Abnredleg Aug 2020 #4
The strong Dow seems to be mainly a handful of stocks, as I understand it. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #5
I have taken some out, the rest RazzleCat Aug 2020 #13
Sounds like you're doing it the right way. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #14
The Market is a rich person's game. iemitsu Aug 2020 #6
Which is why I "piggyback" on the market. Rich people's interests always prevail. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #8
Seems that way, doesn't it. iemitsu Aug 2020 #12
If you think of it that way, if you think the only thing to do is to "play" PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #15
Capitalists have a ton of money. Laelth Aug 2020 #7
Personal income was up 7.3% in the 2nd quarter, and up 10.1% over Q2 2019 progree Aug 2020 #9
There is no place else to put money. Banks and bonds doc03 Aug 2020 #10
The market always eventually comes back, umm, it took 16 years for the Dow to get back to progree Aug 2020 #11
Here's a link to an interesting article about the Dow 1966-1982. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #16
Most people don't own the entire market. They own individual stocks and/or several mutual progree Aug 2020 #17
The market has not nose dived yet because there is no reason for it to nose dive. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #18
The market did dive: the S&P 500 declined 33.9% from February 19 to March 23 progree Aug 2020 #19
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