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PoindexterOglethorpe

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18. The market has not nose dived yet because there is no reason for it to nose dive.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 03:37 AM
Aug 2020

It's very important to understand that the market, especially the Dow, which is all of 30 stocks, is at best peripherally connected to the economy at large. The reason the Dow has not reacted is that it has almost nothing to do with the economy.

Various companies are declaring bankruptcy. That does not mean they are shutting down completely. It means that they are going to be able to restructure their debt, cast off certain financial obligations, and move forward. Trust me, I know about this. I worked for ten years for an airline that went through at least two bankruptcies, and was able to divest itself from its pension obligations. Which means that my pension is less than one third of what it should be. For me, personally, it's not a big deal as I'd never thought I'd get much money from the pension. But for the co-workers who stayed there 30 years or more, who counted on that pension as a significant part of their retirement income, whoops! All of a sudden the largest part of their retirement income became the smallest part. The enraging thing is that they had done everything they were supposed to. And now it was kicked out from under them.

People who piss and moan about the 401k are clueless. At least the 401k isn't subject to things like the company going bankrupt. You actually have control over your investments, and it's crucial you pay attention and maintain that control.

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My tinfoil hat theory.. cilla4progress Aug 2020 #1
Well, one thing no one has mentioned is that the Market is looking forward to a big Biden victory. Hoyt Aug 2020 #2
Answer: $6 Trillion Bailout OneBro Aug 2020 #3
Look at the composition of the indexes Abnredleg Aug 2020 #4
The strong Dow seems to be mainly a handful of stocks, as I understand it. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #5
I have taken some out, the rest RazzleCat Aug 2020 #13
Sounds like you're doing it the right way. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #14
The Market is a rich person's game. iemitsu Aug 2020 #6
Which is why I "piggyback" on the market. Rich people's interests always prevail. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #8
Seems that way, doesn't it. iemitsu Aug 2020 #12
If you think of it that way, if you think the only thing to do is to "play" PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #15
Capitalists have a ton of money. Laelth Aug 2020 #7
Personal income was up 7.3% in the 2nd quarter, and up 10.1% over Q2 2019 progree Aug 2020 #9
There is no place else to put money. Banks and bonds doc03 Aug 2020 #10
The market always eventually comes back, umm, it took 16 years for the Dow to get back to progree Aug 2020 #11
Here's a link to an interesting article about the Dow 1966-1982. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #16
Most people don't own the entire market. They own individual stocks and/or several mutual progree Aug 2020 #17
The market has not nose dived yet because there is no reason for it to nose dive. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #18
The market did dive: the S&P 500 declined 33.9% from February 19 to March 23 progree Aug 2020 #19
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