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FBaggins

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45. Dodging?

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:59 PM

Jul 2012

It's a circular argument to create your own definition for "professional" (that most certainly is not the "traditional meaning&quot ... and then use it as an ad-hominem attack.

Professional does not now mean (nor has it ever meant) "self employed". The vast majority of professionals receive a paycheck from a company. You can't fantasize that away.

I'm beginning to think you've owned your own one-man lawn mowing company since junior-high and just feel better about yourself calling everyone else names while pretending it makes you a professional.

Once again - you're posting in the education group of a progressive board. Do you or do you not believe that teachers are professionals?

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do you think teachers need a dress code? [View all] demtenjeep Jul 2012 OP

Are they going to give you a clothing allowance? murielm99 Jul 2012 #1

Each school should have its own, implicit, 'dress code,' elleng Jul 2012 #2

Teaching the teachers how to lie, eh? Trillo Jul 2012 #3

you would hope not, but mopinko Jul 2012 #4

I wish she worked sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #50

The company I worked for had a dress code & after years & years they did away with it. Booster Jul 2012 #5

Where did you work? Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #11

For a major television network. In no way did I intend to put teachers down in my post. But in Booster Jul 2012 #12

It seems to me dress codes are the refuge of cowardly managers. dballance Jul 2012 #6

Unfortunately, there are people in every profession who do need to be told how to dress. Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #7

What's wrong with dealing with those people individually? proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #15

Establishing a dress code isn't exactly penalizing an entire group of people. It sets standards Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #16

Teachers are professionals and should be treated as such proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #18

And most teachers dress like the professionals that they are and a dress code would not affect Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #19

Yes, doctors often have dress codes. FBaggins Jul 2012 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #17

totally agree demtenjeep Jul 2012 #54

No, but.. LeftTurnOnly Jul 2012 #8

Not "need" perhaps (for most)... but not a big deal. FBaggins Jul 2012 #9

As recently as 10 years ago I worked in law firms TBF Jul 2012 #10

I don't have a problem with a dress code. noamnety Jul 2012 #13

As with most things, a dress code, if it exists at all, LWolf Jul 2012 #14

I teach Ceramics. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #20

I doubt that any dress code for teachers will require office attire. FBaggins Jul 2012 #22

I've actually seen that phrase in dress codes for teachers proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #23

I had the "open-toed shoes" thing, too. LWolf Jul 2012 #25

My response up-thread suggests differently. LWolf Jul 2012 #24

I would think they should be required to dress business casual jpbollma Jul 2012 #26

With the obvious exception of roles where to do so makes no sense. FBaggins Jul 2012 #27

I think we should be required to dress appropriately LWolf Jul 2012 #28

Two of the last three points seem like a perfect dress code to me. FBaggins Jul 2012 #30

Seems good to me, too. LWolf Jul 2012 #38

Even without that... FBaggins Jul 2012 #40

Well, the school I teach at has never had to issue one. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #48

it's just to show you you're not a professional, you're just a walmart peon like everyone else. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #29

Are you under the impression that professionals don't have dress codes? FBaggins Jul 2012 #31

no, cube rats have a dress code. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #32

Cube rats ALSO have a dress code. FBaggins Jul 2012 #33

i'm saying professionals are expected to know how to dress and not to require formalized HiPointDem Jul 2012 #34

Then perhaps you're the one who isn't a professional? FBaggins Jul 2012 #35

what are "professional industries"? the professions aren't "industries" -- that used to be one HiPointDem Jul 2012 #36

That explains the gap FBaggins Jul 2012 #37

uh, yes, it did. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #39

Can you describe the professional settings in which you've worked? FBaggins Jul 2012 #41

you first. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #42

Already done. FBaggins Jul 2012 #43

oh, the training dept of a medium sized corp. not a professional, just an educated employee. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #44

Dodging? FBaggins Jul 2012 #45

dodging what? it's not my own definition, it's the traditional meaning. "the professions" were HiPointDem Jul 2012 #46

Dodging what? You think others can't tell? FBaggins Jul 2012 #47

i wasn't talking about the 15th century. your claim that most professionals are paid by HiPointDem Jul 2012 #49

Maybe just the illegal aliens do, other than that.... 2on2u Jul 2012 #51

Yes I do and I am a teacher! roody Jul 2012 #52

No, it's insulting...nt lutefisk Jul 2012 #53

I agree demtenjeep Jul 2012 #55

No, we don't need more insults. RobertAustin Jul 2012 #56