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OKIsItJustMe

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11. Or maybe not
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 06:46 PM
Aug 2016
http://www.energy-storage.news/news/rwe-launches-power-to-gas-storage-system
[font face=Serif][font size=5]RWE launches power-to-gas storage system[/font]

By John Parnell | Aug 20, 2015 12:30 PM BST

[font size=3]German utility firm RWE has launched a power-to-gas storage system, which it claims has achieved efficiencies as high as 86%.

The plant uses excess electricity from the local grid to create hydrogen via an electrolyser bult by UK firm ITM Power. The hydrogen is pumped into the natural gas network and heat from the process is drawn by a district heating system. The hydrogen can be called on to generate power when it is needed.

The plant in Ibbenbüren North Rhine Westphalia (NRW) could be the first of many with RWE executives lining up to extol its virtues.


[font size=1]The plant in Ibbenbüren North Rhine Westphalia (NRW) could be the first of many. Source: ITM Power[/font]

“In order to be able to pick up excess electricity from renewable sources onto our grid, we need alternatives to conventional grid expansion methods. This was the driving force behind our decision to embrace this new technology,” said Dr Joachim Schneider, CTO, RWE Deutschland. “The hydrogen that is created by electrolysis can be stored and later used to generate power. The benefit of this form of electricity storage is the enormous infrastructure already offered by the natural gas network – which has huge storage capacity and a high-performing network.”

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This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #1
Actually, since so called "renewable energy" is an expensive failure... NNadir Aug 2016 #3
I'm a strong supporter of alternative and renewable fuels, but hydrogen scares the hell out of me. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #2
Don't worry about it. People have been running this hydrogen scam for generations. NNadir Aug 2016 #4
Do you trust gasoline-powered cars? OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #9
That's why we LWolf Aug 2016 #5
"When produced using renewable energy" progressoid Aug 2016 #6
And it's even worse than that caraher Aug 2016 #7
Or maybe not OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #10
I don't see the immediate relevance to transportation, the subject of the OP caraher Aug 2016 #13
Relevance to the OP OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #14
Or maybe not OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #11
That 86% figure is pretty squirrely caraher Aug 2016 #12
Do other forms of recovered energy not count then? OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #15
Southeast Asia’s First Renewable Hydrogen-Based Energy Storage and Power Plant Awarded to Hydrogeni… OKIsItJustMe Aug 2016 #16
We're over 400 ppm of CO2 permanently and we're still focusing on this piddling... NNadir Aug 2016 #17
18 trillion watts (18 million megawatts) for a year = 570 exajoules, I think progree Aug 2016 #18
You are correct. In my anger at the stupidity of the post, I left out the "Mega" prefix... NNadir Aug 2016 #19
So in 30 years, hydrogen cars might be as cheap to drive as electric cars are today??? NickB79 Aug 2016 #8
Only if there are no improvements in battery storage technology over that 30 years.. mackdaddy Aug 2016 #20
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