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OKIsItJustMe

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22. I don’t see that…
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:39 AM
Mar 2012

Let’s take the example of New York City, it’s a large urban area, with a preexisting power grid.

A significant portion of its electricity currently comes from a large, aging nuclear fission plant. OK, so let’s say we have a large nuclear fusion plant we can replace it with… this seems like a good thing™ to me.

Look to Southern Illinois:
http://www.coalage.com/index.php/news/news/1276-prairie-state-energy-campus-starup-just-a-few-months-away.html

[font face=Times, Times New Roman, Serif][font size=5]Prairie State Energy Campus Starup Just a Few Months Away[/font]

Thursday, 25 August 2011 09:57

[font size=3]The countdown is under way for the partial startup in December of Prairie State Energy Campus, a 1,600-megawatt mine-mouth complex in southwestern Illinois, the brainchild of Peabody Energy Corp. a decade ago.

Already, the new Lively Grove underground mine is producing some of the 6.3 million tons of high-sulfur coal that will be burned annually in the nearby supercritical power plant. Coal is being stockpiled in preparation for the commercial operation of 800-megawatt Unit 1. The twin second unit is scheduled to go on line next summer, perhaps sooner. Drawing upon a reserve base of 200 million tons, the mine has a projected life of 30 years.



The plant will generate enough electricity to serve some 2.5 million families in five states and produce about $785 million in annual economic benefits for Illinois, an Illinois Basin state whose coal production is on the upswing after two decades of decline and stagnation following Congressional passage of the Clean Air Act Amendments in 1990.

Rising from the surrounding countryside, Prairie State’s sheer size is impressive. It boasts a 700-foot-tall stack, 70 ft higher than the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, about 40 miles away.

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Clearly, the electrical infrastructure is in place to support a large fusion facility. I think that taking that coal plant off-line and providing power to those 2.5 million families from a centralized fusion plant would be desirable.

The LIFE concept calls for doing just this sort of thing.

https://life.llnl.gov/delivering_life/index.php
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The timeliness requirements for commercial delivery are compelling. Rollout from the 2030s would remove 90 to 140 gigatons of CO[font size="1"]2[/font]-equivalent carbon emissions by the end of the century (assuming U.S. coal plants are displaced and the doubling time for roll-out is between 5 and 10 years). Delaying rollout by just 10 years removes 30 to 35% of the carbon emission avoidance, which at $100/megaton translates to a net present value of $140 to $260 billion dollars. For inertial fusion energy to achieve its full potential in solving our energy/climate challenges, a focused delivery program is urgently needed.


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Not the brightest bulb here but this sounds great!!! lostnote12 Mar 2012 #1
Every step toward fusion is priceless. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #2
Is hydrogen from water natural? OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #3
The real question: is photosynthesis without sunlight natural? napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #7
So, if we use sunlight to split water into hydrogen and oxygen OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #9
Oh yeah, hydrogen fuel cells from solar makes perfect sense. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #10
and the immune system makes hydrogen peroxide to attack invaders bananas Mar 2012 #16
Nice breakdown/thanks..... lostnote12 Mar 2012 #4
Yeah, its really the ultimate source of energy. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #8
This may or may not be true OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #13
Just to be pedantic.... Dead_Parrot Mar 2012 #11
Alright, you build that "big bang" turbine and I will eat my hat... napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #12
Well, although it was raised humorously OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #14
We could make some money off it... napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #15
Seriously though OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #19
My heuristic is simpler for identifying energy sources. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #28
Some say Joe is seen daily OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #29
vacuum energy nt bananas Mar 2012 #17
NIF has something to do with FogerRox Mar 2012 #5
Unfortunately.... PamW Mar 2012 #18
Some calculations, like Todd Riders work, FogerRox Mar 2012 #30
Has anyone read this thread? freethought Mar 2012 #6
I have OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #21
At this point solutions that can't be localized aren't helpful. GliderGuider Mar 2012 #20
I don’t see that… OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #22
I know you don't. GliderGuider Mar 2012 #23
I also feel that decentralized power is useful OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #24
The underlying assumption of your position GliderGuider Mar 2012 #25
I’m hoping to avoid (or soften) the blow of that change OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #26
Me too. GliderGuider Mar 2012 #27
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