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NNadir

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25. We are using 170% as much coal as we were using in 2000.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:34 PM
Mar 2017
Worldwide carbon budgets by fuel type

If we cut coal out tomorrow, more than 50% of the people who log on repeatedly to the internet to claim that Fukushima is the only environmental issue that matters would be sitting in the dark, never mind burning fossil fuels to post their ignorance on the internet.

In the meantime we are also using 144% as much gas as we used in 2000, and 117% as much oil.

Coal amounts to only 44% of current emissions.

Nobody is making any serious effort to eliminate coal, except maybe the Chinese, since Chinese account for 20% of the 7 million air pollution deaths per year. They are only marginally interested in climate change.

Worldwide, there are no reasonable and workable plans to do it. In this country half the people don't "believe" in climate change, and the other half propose ideas that haven't worked, aren't working and won't work.

On the left, many of us - not me - but the majority of us seem to think that daydreaming about a solar and wind wonderland with billions of tons of batteries will save the day. This is an exceedingly stupid and unsustainable idea.

The first step in "doing something about it" would involve lessening our contempt, right and left, for scientists and engineers. We do know what we're talking about, but no one in the general public is willing to listen.

That's not going to happen, most likely, but the feeling that it won't should not prevent anyone who can do something to do as much of it as is possible.

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Oh NOES! Jump overboard! Give it up! Roll over! FYI: DISCOURAGERS ONLY ENCOURAGE US (n/t) FreepFryer Mar 2017 #1
Followup - the only thing worse than being a Trumpist is resigning oneself to Armageddon. (n/t) FreepFryer Mar 2017 #2
I think the point is "collapse" nt defacto7 Mar 2017 #5
Collapse is far from inevitable. Self-adopted helplessness only helps Trumpism. (n/t) FreepFryer Mar 2017 #8
Although I appreciate your optimism, defacto7 Mar 2017 #10
It's not optimism. I firmly believe that we have the means and the numbers - now, the will. (n/t) FreepFryer Mar 2017 #16
Great to hear! nt defacto7 Mar 2017 #17
what is the point of this post? sue4e3 Mar 2017 #3
The point is... Binkie The Clown Mar 2017 #9
That's exactly what I thought you were getting at. defacto7 Mar 2017 #11
My point was you are singing to the choir here sue4e3 Mar 2017 #15
I Take an Odd Sort of Comfort from This One Fact: Verbose Matthias Mar 2017 #18
Actually, this is not true OKIsItJustMe Mar 2017 #21
welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2017 #22
I'm going down into my secret underground cavern defacto7 Mar 2017 #4
Knock, Knock! ThoughtCriminal Mar 2017 #6
No, they'll head on over to their missile silo condos in the middle of Kansas meadowlark5 Mar 2017 #7
There was a show called name of the game in the early 70's kimbutgar Mar 2017 #14
Steve Bannon's involvement in the Biosphere project is interesting. Tanuki Mar 2017 #12
Have you been watching BBC America planet earth 2? kimbutgar Mar 2017 #13
How comforting. This I assume, would be in lieu of doing something about it. n/t NNadir Mar 2017 #19
OK. Starting today. No more coal pscot Mar 2017 #20
Not just coal. All FF. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #23
Zero is about what we'll do pscot Mar 2017 #24
We are using 170% as much coal as we were using in 2000. NNadir Mar 2017 #25
Australia is digging twice pscot Mar 2017 #28
It can be done; whether it will be done is another question entirely. n/t NNadir Mar 2017 #29
I guess when everyone is dead, none of us will care. democratisphere Mar 2017 #26
So true. Binkie The Clown Mar 2017 #27
I'm looking forward to learning new skill sets. hunter Mar 2017 #30
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