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OKIsItJustMe

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8. I'm no great fan of nuclear power but...
Mon May 1, 2017, 11:20 AM
May 2017

If those plants are taken off-line, something will be needed to fill the gap. Nuclear is the second largest source of electricity in New York (~ 3.5 GWh)—second only to natural gas (~ 4.0 GWh.) Non-hydro renewable accounts for less than .5 GWh (which, believe it or not, is more than triple the amount generated by coal.)
https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NY#tabs-4

Still, if you want to replace those 3.5 GWh with non-hydro renewables, you will need to increase them by a factor of 7-8 overnight.

My guess is that if we shut down those nuclear plants tomorrow, first, old, idle, coal plants would be brought back on-line, then, gas plants would be built to take their place.

Wind and solar will continue to expand in New York, but my first priority is to take the remaining coal and petroleum plants off-line, then the natural gas plants, then after we’ve gotten rid of the fossil fuel plants, the “biomass” burning plants, finally, the nuclear (fission) plants (by the time we’ve eliminated all of the plants which pump carbon into the atmosphere, nuclear fusion may be practical.)

Gallium arsenide based. There isn't enough gallium on the entire planet to make this useless... NNadir Apr 2017 #1
And he's back ccarrick Apr 2017 #2
Um...you know what? NNadir May 2017 #3
Well, you would definitely be the inside expert on liars. kristopher May 2017 #4
Pot and kettle ccarrick May 2017 #5
Meanwhile, even as solar and wind are inexorably declining in price kristopher May 2017 #6
The reality-based community ccarrick May 2017 #7
I'm no great fan of nuclear power but... OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #8
No blank check for outdated nukes ccarrick May 2017 #9
Well, the offshore wind projects are starting OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #10
As they build more renewables, then what obsolete generation will be turned off? kristopher May 2017 #11
I'm sorry? OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #12
How do you suggest we impose that order on a dynamic economic entity? kristopher May 2017 #13
What effect will the... NeoGreen May 2017 #14
Methane is another carbon emission and greenhouse gas, so, yes, it counts OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #15
That is pie-in-the-sky BS from the nuclear lobby. kristopher May 2017 #24
Hansen's proposed carbon fee would be a good start OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #16
In case you missed the headline - a carbon tax can't be passed kristopher May 2017 #17
Sophie Sez #1: You loaded 16 tons, what do you get? OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #18
I don't click thru on videos kristopher May 2017 #21
Too bad... so sad... OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #22
So you still can't actually engage on a point when it goes against your beliefs? kristopher May 2017 #23
Sophie Sez #2: "Obama Missed a Golden Opportunity but We Can Still Win!" OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #19
But it hasn't passed, has it? kristopher May 2017 #25
Sophie Sez #3: "$1000 for You A Better World for Your Children" OKIsItJustMe May 2017 #20
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