Environment & Energy
In reply to the discussion: We could recycle the world's most "efficient" solar cells when they fail, um, couldn't we? [View all]NNadir
(37,633 posts)...is "safer" than nuclear is garbage, since over a trillion bucks squandered on solar in just the last ten years did nothing to prevent the growth in the use of dangerous fossil fuels.
And dangerous fossil fuels, again, in case you missed it, kill people, not just when there are accidents, not just when they are mined, but when they are used normally.
Since solar is ineffective and useless, it is dangerous since it allows this danger - fossil fuels - to continue to kill people.
The world scientific literature is absolutely filled with references to the tragedy of electronic waste, and just because you neither know about it or care about it, and are only concerned with what you and not I consider an "EMERGENCY" is pure indifferent selective attention, which to repeat, I consider weak minded bullshit.
I never miss reading a single issue of the scientific journal Environmental Science and Technology. I spend at least one full working day, sometimes more in the primary scientific literature, sometimes to do my job, and sometimes because I give a shit about the environment.
What do you do to stay informed? Prowl the internet for nuclear materials leaks?
You after all, dug up this thread to announce the grand fucking tragedy with an ignorant statement that solar is safer than nuclear.
I am not going to calm down.
Like I say repeatedly and consistently, 19,000 people die every fucking day, and if you think I'm supposed to calm down and talk to you as if you're being sensible.
You're not being sensible. It's not even close.
I repeat, in case you didn't get it while worrying over whether or not you like my tone, the solar industry is extremely dangerous not just because it involves toxic materials, although it does involve toxic materials - like cadmium - which kill people regularly if out of your purview. But the most is dangerous thing about the solar industry is that it doesn't work.. The trillions of dollars thrown at solar and wind in the last ten years has not made the slightest dent in the increase in the use of dangerous fossil fuels. The solar doesn't produce as much energy in total after 50 years of hype as resulted from the increase in the use of dangerous natural gas in a single year. As of 2015 the humanity was using 574 exajoules of energy each year. Solar PV energy didn't produce 3 of them.
Because it doesn't work, it follows that it allows the status quo to continue and the status quo is not only killing people; it's destroying the atmosphere for all future generations. Maybe you think I should sit around drinking tea and conversing with you on what is clearly ridiculous criteria because, well, you consider yourself sensible and calm and reasonable.
If that is in fact, your description of yourself, I strongly disagree. There's nothing sensible, nothing calming and nothing reasonable in you pulling up this thread to hand out stupid solar propaganda that is, again, nonsense.
Rather than suggesting that I calm down, I'd like to recommend that instead you have a little passion for decency - maybe even become angry - but maybe that's to much to ask. You fucking think that the tunnel at Hanford is a big deal. I think that racing over 410 ppm of carbon dioxide this year at a rate never seen before is a big deal and the fucking Hanford tunnel is trivial. I think that the 19,000 people who will die today from air pollution is a big deal, and you think that a few microcuries of 137Cs that might leak out of a tunnel is the end of the world.
Get it?
No?
Why am I not surprised?