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Why generators are terrified of solar
By Giles Parkinson on 26 March 2012
Here is a pair of graphs that demonstrate most vividly the merit order effect and the impact that solar is having on electricity prices in Germany; and why utilities there and elsewhere are desperate to try to reign in the growth of solar PV in Europe. It may also explain why Australian generators are fighting so hard against the extension of feed-in tariffs in this country.
The first graph illustrates what a typical day on the electricity market in Germany looked like in March four years ago; the second illustrates what is happening now, with 25GW of solar PV installed across the country. Essentially, it means that solar PV is not just licking the cream off the profits of the fossil fuel generators as happens in Australia with a more modest rollout of PV it is in fact eating their entire cake.


Both graphs were published last week on the website Renewables International, and were sourced from EPEX, the European power price exchange. The first graph, from 2008, shows peaking power prices rising to around 60/MWh and staying there for most of the day, with some visible peaks around noon and the early evening the size of which would depend on the temperature and the usage.
The second graph shows a brief leap to 65/MWh around 9am, before the impact of solar PV takes hold erasing the midday peak entirely and leaving only a smaller one in the evening. The huge bite out of day-prices is also a bite out of fossil fuel generators earnings and profits. Note that the average peak price in the second graph is barely higher than the baseload price.
Deutsche Bank solar analyst Vishal Shah noted in a report last month that EPEX data was showing solar PV was cutting peak electricity prices by up to 40 per cent ...
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2012/why-generators-are-terrified-of-solar-44279
By Giles Parkinson on 26 March 2012
Here is a pair of graphs that demonstrate most vividly the merit order effect and the impact that solar is having on electricity prices in Germany; and why utilities there and elsewhere are desperate to try to reign in the growth of solar PV in Europe. It may also explain why Australian generators are fighting so hard against the extension of feed-in tariffs in this country.
The first graph illustrates what a typical day on the electricity market in Germany looked like in March four years ago; the second illustrates what is happening now, with 25GW of solar PV installed across the country. Essentially, it means that solar PV is not just licking the cream off the profits of the fossil fuel generators as happens in Australia with a more modest rollout of PV it is in fact eating their entire cake.


Both graphs were published last week on the website Renewables International, and were sourced from EPEX, the European power price exchange. The first graph, from 2008, shows peaking power prices rising to around 60/MWh and staying there for most of the day, with some visible peaks around noon and the early evening the size of which would depend on the temperature and the usage.
The second graph shows a brief leap to 65/MWh around 9am, before the impact of solar PV takes hold erasing the midday peak entirely and leaving only a smaller one in the evening. The huge bite out of day-prices is also a bite out of fossil fuel generators earnings and profits. Note that the average peak price in the second graph is barely higher than the baseload price.
Deutsche Bank solar analyst Vishal Shah noted in a report last month that EPEX data was showing solar PV was cutting peak electricity prices by up to 40 per cent ...
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2012/why-generators-are-terrified-of-solar-44279
The "merit-order effect"
Electricity produced under a FIT law can help to reduce the average cost of electricity by affecting the wholesale price. Because renewable electricity must be purchased before other sources, the size of the remaining demand to be purchased on the spot market is reduced. Under the "merit order" principle, plants with the lowest costs are used first to meet demand, with more costly plants being brought on line later if needed. The most expensive conventional power plants are therefore no longer needed to meet demand. If the FIT tariff (or price) is lower than the price from the most expensive conventional plants, then the average cost of electricity decreases, and this is called the merit-order effect. This decrease was estimated to be about 5 billion in Germany in 2006.
Electricity produced under a FIT law can help to reduce the average cost of electricity by affecting the wholesale price. Because renewable electricity must be purchased before other sources, the size of the remaining demand to be purchased on the spot market is reduced. Under the "merit order" principle, plants with the lowest costs are used first to meet demand, with more costly plants being brought on line later if needed. The most expensive conventional power plants are therefore no longer needed to meet demand. If the FIT tariff (or price) is lower than the price from the most expensive conventional plants, then the average cost of electricity decreases, and this is called the merit-order effect. This decrease was estimated to be about 5 billion in Germany in 2006.
http://www.worldfuturecouncil.org/index.php?id=425
Energy Policy Volume 36, Issue 8, August 2008, Pages 30863094
The merit-order effect: A detailed analysis of the price effect of renewable electricity generation on spot market prices in Germany
Frank Sensfußa, , , Mario Ragwitza, Massimo Genoeseb, 1,
a Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research, Breslauer Str. 48, 76139 Karlsruhe, Germany
b Institute for Industrial Production, Universität Karlsruhe (TH), Hertzstr. 16, 76187 Karlsruhe, Germany
Received 18 January 2008. Accepted 25 March 2008.
Abstract
The German feed-in support of electricity generation from renewable energy sources has led to high growth rates of the supported technologies. Critics state that the costs for consumers are too high. An important aspect to be considered in the discussion is the price effect created by renewable electricity generation. This paper seeks to analyse the impact of privileged renewable electricity generation on the electricity market in Germany. The central aspect to be analysed is the impact of renewable electricity generation on spot market prices. The results generated by an agent-based simulation platform indicate that the financial volume of the price reduction is considerable. In the short run, this gives rise to a distributional effect which creates savings for the demand side by reducing generator profits. In the case of the year 2006, the volume of the merit-order effect exceeds the volume of the net support payments for renewable electricity generation which have to be paid by consumers.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421508001717
The merit-order effect: A detailed analysis of the price effect of renewable electricity generation on spot market prices in Germany
Frank Sensfußa, , , Mario Ragwitza, Massimo Genoeseb, 1,
a Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research, Breslauer Str. 48, 76139 Karlsruhe, Germany
b Institute for Industrial Production, Universität Karlsruhe (TH), Hertzstr. 16, 76187 Karlsruhe, Germany
Received 18 January 2008. Accepted 25 March 2008.
Abstract
The German feed-in support of electricity generation from renewable energy sources has led to high growth rates of the supported technologies. Critics state that the costs for consumers are too high. An important aspect to be considered in the discussion is the price effect created by renewable electricity generation. This paper seeks to analyse the impact of privileged renewable electricity generation on the electricity market in Germany. The central aspect to be analysed is the impact of renewable electricity generation on spot market prices. The results generated by an agent-based simulation platform indicate that the financial volume of the price reduction is considerable. In the short run, this gives rise to a distributional effect which creates savings for the demand side by reducing generator profits. In the case of the year 2006, the volume of the merit-order effect exceeds the volume of the net support payments for renewable electricity generation which have to be paid by consumers.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421508001717
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So Solar PV needs to be PV + Conservation programs + ? to meet/beat AND reduce demand?
patrice
Apr 2012
#3
How does the current explosion in manufacturing capacity disprove the OP's thesis?
kristopher
Apr 2012
#7
How does the current explosion in manufacturing capacity disprove the OP's thesis?
kristopher
Apr 2012
#9
Yes the homeowners and the local communities who are getting that money are pretty happy
kristopher
Apr 2012
#14
So you think people should be forced to live around nuclear plants they believe are unsafe?
kristopher
Apr 2012
#28
See, I think you come off as someone who is more motivated by being anti-nuclear
XemaSab
Apr 2012
#72
Your posts lack specificity, don't blame me for your sloppy communication skills.
kristopher
Apr 2012
#44
Their claim "what is happening now" is not the graphic I see on any given day today.
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#47
No, I am not. If that graphic was representive of overall pricing between 2008 and 2012...
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#61
I'm very sure your self deleted comment to wraith is not relevant to our conversation.
kristopher
Apr 2012
#77
In a discussion specifically about sources of generation being put under pricing pressure
kristopher
Apr 2012
#96
The article does actually weasel around consumer pricing with capitalism verbiage.
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#99
The OP makes claims about "the impact that solar is having on electricity prices in Germany."
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#75
The OP supports the claims it makes as opposed to the strawman you are creating
kristopher
Apr 2012
#78
You're a liar when it comes to accusing me of having a "quest to protect the nuclear industry."
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#82
You consistently take positions that further the agenda of the nuclear industry.
kristopher
Apr 2012
#85
I take a position against misrepresentations in text. I take positions against being fooled.
joshcryer
Apr 2012
#86
What is the actual mechanism by which nuclear power shuts down a coal plant?
kristopher
Apr 2012
#118
So you do not want to shut down coal plants and you want to expand energy consumption.
kristopher
Apr 2012
#124
Remarkable! You accuse me of "not answering" when I've waited 2 days for your reply.
kristopher
Apr 2012
#126
You had your chance to talk about it like a grown-up kris. You chose the way of...
Dead_Parrot
Apr 2012
#130
Just to demonstrate how long this same conversation has been going on... nt
kristopher
Feb 2013
#136