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NNadir

(33,512 posts)
3. Yeah. I know. Solar has been "just getting started" since 1954.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 09:22 PM
Jul 2018

It's a trival and useless form of energy that will never be clean and will never be sustainable.

I'm an old man; and I've been hearing these useless predictions my whole damn life. You do realize, don't you that the solar cell was invented in 1954?

The result in the inexplicably popular but dangerous faith in solar energy is that the concentration of dangerous fossil fuel waste reached more than 411 ppm this year, despite the fact that the asshole Amory Lovins predicted in 1976 that by the year 2000 the United States would be producing 20 "Quads," (1 Quad = 1.055 exajoule) of energy.

On the whole dying planet, the solar industry doesn't produce 2 quads as of 2018, despite the production of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of soothsaying graphics like the one you produced here, year after year, decade after decade, 100 billion tons of carbon dioxide after 100's of billion tons.

Do you have any idea of how many similar soothsaying graphics I've seen in my lifetime? I'm not young, but I was seeing them when I was.

This bullshit is irresponsible and frankly criminal, since it dumps responsibility on future generations to do what we have been unable to do ourselves.

Here's the 1954 Bell Labs ad telling us that solar energy would save the day:



Guess what? It didn't save the day.

The great "benefit" for mankind has proved to be wishful thinking, massive environmental destruction and an industry that can't even produce enough energy to power all the computers and servers dedicated to saying how great it is.


Solar is just getting started. True disruption to other sources is not in our lifetime. Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #1
Yeah. I know. Solar has been "just getting started" since 1954. NNadir Jul 2018 #3
Uh, first it is an ad and so hyperbole is par. Second, it is one battery. See no claim it is going Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #8
So is climate change NickB79 Jul 2018 #11
Tired of this crap. Eko Jul 2018 #2
I got the same Strawman! Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #9
So this is the convincing part of your arguent... sfwriter Jul 2018 #4
'I don't see anyone choosing renewable over nuclear. They choose renewable over coal.' John ONeill Jul 2018 #12
I thought the thread concerned the US market. sfwriter Jul 2018 #14
By your logic... NNadir Jul 2018 #15
Move to China ... GeorgeGist Jul 2018 #5
Actually, I love my country and despise the morons who are making it unsafe... NNadir Jul 2018 #6
I am actually with you on nuclear. Pocket nuclear plants today, without being a expert, seem Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #10
Thank you for your civil and kind suggestion about an approach to, um, "getting my point across." NNadir Jul 2018 #13
Thank you for the response, I am truly flattered, as much as I can be given my resistance to Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #16
Are renewables useful ? John ONeill Jul 2018 #18
Word...Battery...once the power density storage efficiency reaches a certain point, all the energy Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #19
I do recognize that it is difficult for bourgeois liberals to see so called "renewable energy..." NNadir Jul 2018 #20
Laos dam collapse: Many feared dead as floods hit villages hunter Jul 2018 #21
Improvement comes from criticism. JayhawkSD Jul 2018 #7
To the extent this displaces the typical Chinese coal fired power plant... hunter Jul 2018 #17
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