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zipplewrath

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5. Hardly "useless"

Reply to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 08:45 AM

Aug 2018

Power on the consumption side always fluctuates, so the industry already has experience dealing with that. And wind power can (and is) "throttled". Wind is a part of the larger grid in which power comes from all manner of sources including hydro, and gas. Energy storage is a useful addition but even without it, sources like wind and solar, which are intermittent, still can provide a significant portion of the total energy usage.

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Wind energy potential dwarfs today's electricity use, report says [View all] Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 OP

For the umpteenth time: The problem with wind-power is not total power. DetlefK Aug 2018 #1

Wind power can be used to produce hydrogen. Kaleva Aug 2018 #3

Off-shore wind is more consistent Finishline42 Aug 2018 #4

Hardly "useless" zipplewrath Aug 2018 #5

That was my first thought as well at140 Aug 2018 #26

Batteries are not the only way to store energy. yonder Aug 2018 #29

I meant batteries in a general sense. DetlefK Aug 2018 #30

and it's hurrican/nor'easter proof too? nt msongs Aug 2018 #2

Is a nor'easter worse than what they get in either the North or Baltic Seas? Finishline42 Aug 2018 #27

How much is it going to cost to remove these bird killing navigation hazards... hunter Aug 2018 #6

So the only acceptable solution has to be 100%... LakeSuperiorView Aug 2018 #7

As I said, fossil fuels are like smoking. hunter Aug 2018 #10

How do you get to low energy economies powered entirely by renewable energy with no LakeSuperiorView Aug 2018 #14

I chose my simile carefully. hunter Aug 2018 #16

Please show your work. LakeSuperiorView Aug 2018 #18

just for curiosity, how much do forest fires contribute at140 Aug 2018 #28

Given how fast climate change is now accelerating? Yep NickB79 Aug 2018 #13

I fail to see how you can support your arguement that hybrid gas-wind is not much better then coal Kaleva Aug 2018 #8

These types of battery storage are measured in seconds or minutes. hunter Aug 2018 #9

Natural gas turbines are being tested that can run on a 30% hydrogen mix. Kaleva Aug 2018 #15

By the magic of natural gas... hunter Aug 2018 #17

Natural gas is going to be around for a long time and hydrogen, produced by wind power,.. Kaleva Aug 2018 #19

If the gas comes from fracking, it's releasing a lot of fugitive methane NickB79 Aug 2018 #11

So are you arguing that we ought to build more coal plants.... Kaleva Aug 2018 #20

Nope, but thanks for putting words in my mouth NickB79 Aug 2018 #21

I'm kind of baffled about why you go on and on about natural gas when I'm talking about wind power.. Kaleva Aug 2018 #22

Do you really believe we'd give up gas so easily? NickB79 Aug 2018 #23

I believe the horse has already left the barn as far as you are concerned. Kaleva Aug 2018 #24

Sure gonna need it for all that air conditioning mountain grammy Aug 2018 #12

Another negative feedback loop Finishline42 Aug 2018 #25

Instead of talking theory how about we talk about Texas? Finishline42 Aug 2018 #31

That's not good news, it's terrifying. hunter Aug 2018 #32

I think your read on Texas is a bit off Finishline42 Aug 2018 #33

So Exxon has started asking for bids for Wind and Solar? Finishline42 Aug 2018 #34

I think you are proving my point. hunter Aug 2018 #35

As a citizen of New Jersey, I strongly object to this plan to install this consumer crap... NNadir Aug 2018 #36