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tinrobot

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31. I'm not rich and that subsidy helped me afford an electric car
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 04:02 PM
Oct 2018

A lot of people such as myself are buying electric cars other than Tesla. I'm a huge proponent of mass transit, but if we must have cars, electric cars are much cleaner. We need to subsidize the cars along with charging networks to get ourselves off of oil.

Electricity is overwhelming made by burning dangerous fossil fuels, and thus electric cars, since they waste energy produced by burning dangerous fossil fuels make things worse, not better.

That's myth promoted by fossil fuel companies. If you create the electricity with coal and put it in an electric car, the amount of pollution will still be less than if you burned gasoline in the same size car. On top of that, it is easier to contain and/or scrub the carbon from a centralized plant than multiple vehicles.

That said, coal/oil still needs to go away. The real benefit to electric cars is that they decouple the fuel source from the vehicle, so you can wean yourself off of fossil fuels completely. Your city could generate power from solar, wind, or any number of non-fossil fuel sources in order to clean up the vehicles. You could also put solar panels on your roof and ditch coal completely on your own.

I saw somewhere that one of Rupert Murdoch's kids was going to be Tesla's new chairman... RockRaven Oct 2018 #1
Wonder if it's GM or Ford or both contributing to his campaign fund? brush Oct 2018 #2
0. Republican introduces new bill to end the $7,500 federal tax credit for electric cars and tax the Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #3
In other words, force people to be rich enough to buy electric cars? progree Oct 2018 #4
Only rich people can afford electric cars now Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #5
How does taxing gas so everyone is forced to buy a car that "only rich people can afford" help? uppityperson Oct 2018 #6
People not using our/fossil fuel Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #7
Citing The Daily Caller, a climate change denier? Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #8
Doncha know? The Daily Caller is the poor peoples' friend ROFLMFAO. n/t progree Oct 2018 #9
Well what do you deem appropriate? Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #10
That piece is an honest assessment of the UN position Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #12
So you think the way to combate man made climate change Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #13
Industry is responsible for about 85 percent of total greenhouse gases Brother Buzz Oct 2018 #16
What about subsiding poor people so they can buy electric cars? uppityperson Oct 2018 #11
A $7,000 subsidize is just for rich people Wyatt513 Oct 2018 #14
What about subsidizing so poor people can buy electric cars? uppityperson Oct 2018 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author mahina Oct 2018 #29
To begin with - raising the gas tax is political suicide - straight from a congressional staffer Finishline42 Oct 2018 #24
See, that is the crux of the problem. MichMan Oct 2018 #27
It doesn't matter a whit. This subsidy for rich people has nothing to do with the environment. NNadir Oct 2018 #15
Can you please quantitatively compare the primary fuel in BTU used to power an electric car progree Oct 2018 #18
Well, I don't get my science from articles in Forbes, nor do I credit the idea of ignoring... NNadir Oct 2018 #19
On externalities - any "science" article that applies to the U.S., instead of China? progree Oct 2018 #21
I said I was being generous at 90% for all of the conversions, but what does it matter? NNadir Oct 2018 #22
Some insights into why I perhaps myopically focus on the U.S. progree Oct 2018 #23
OK. Everyone should do what they can; clearly you are; but I hope... NNadir Oct 2018 #25
I think you might have a misunderstanding... NeoGreen Oct 2018 #20
I'm not rich and that subsidy helped me afford an electric car tinrobot Oct 2018 #31
I'm very happy for your personal story. NNadir Oct 2018 #32
100 million electric vehicles? Where did you get that? tinrobot Oct 2018 #33
He likes to throw numbers around to confuse the subject Finishline42 Oct 2018 #34
these are the same people that killed the electric street car in the 40s AllaN01Bear Oct 2018 #26
They must be really old by now MichMan Oct 2018 #28
This is fine with me TBH Calculating Oct 2018 #30
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