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Rhiannon12866

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Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:52 AM Mar 2019

He's Creating A New Fuel Out Of Thin Air -- For 85 Cents Per Gallon [View all]

Advocates of America’s Green New Deal or other radical efforts to decarbonize the world economy in the face of a looming climate crisis may well have one of their greatest champions in a rumpled 65-year-old who lives in the Toronto suburbs.

Roger Gordon wears a navy wool coat that extends well past the bottom of his green knit sweater on a chilly day in February. He talks with a quintessentially Canadian politeness as he rails against what he sees as a massive conspiracy to suppress his life’s work — which could amount to a fuel revolution.

Ammonia has been used as both an alternative fuel source and a surplus energy storage mechanism since the 1800s, and while its production is far less damaging to the environment than traditional oil and gas, it’s not without its pollutants. In order to create NH3, the ammonia-based fuel, one would have to build a massive production facility that still burns large quantities of fossil fuels and releases significant amounts of carbon in the production process.

But in 2014, Gordon — who’s spent his career producing active pharmaceutical ingredients for sale around the world — secured a patent for his long-time side project: a refrigerator-sized machine that turns water and air into a reusable, renewable, ammonia-based NH3. The project began in the early 2000s, and took almost nine years before it produced a usable prototype. The patent application was submitted the following year, at a time when Gordon says he didn’t even have transportation fuel on his radar. Today, he drives a converted Ford F-350 with a button on the dashboard that allows him to switch between traditional gasoline and one of the small tanks of colorless, strong-smelling NH3 gas sitting in back of the pickup truck.

“I didn’t have the wherewithal to try it as a transportation fuel,” Gordon explains in an interview at a shopping mall in Toronto. But researchers at the University of Iowa and the University of Michigan were driving on ammonia — and Gordon says they jumped at the idea of creating NH3 “with no heritage of oil or coal or anything that’s carbon.”

Anyone can retrofit a traditional combustion engine into one that runs on NH3 for about $1,000, and at least 100 others around the world have made the investment, but Gordon says the infrastructure required to change the global transportation industry is too overwhelming to even consider. Instead, Gordon sees opportunities in places that are spending significant resources on getting access to fuel, such as remote communities and industrial operations in Africa or northern Canada. “The lowest hanging fruit would be a mine in the far north that’s now spending $105 million on diesel fuel a year, and they can now come to us for half the price,” he says.


Read more: https://www.ozy.com/rising-stars/hes-creating-a-new-fuel-out-of-thin-air-for-85-cents-per-gallon/92686


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Interesting Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #1
I thought it was pretty interesting, sounds promising - and something that we won't hear on the news Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #2
We won't hear about it as you say Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #3
And the environment really ought to be at the forefront of news these days Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #4
Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #5
...because it isn't in the interests of watoos Mar 2019 #11
Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #14
It's a mixed blessing. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #7
Thanks for the information Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #13
While it may reduce carbon emissions there will be a tradeoff. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #6
Thanks for weighing in! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #8
Yep, NOx is just as bad as SOx. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #9
"Unless they use solar or wind to power the ammonia machines..." jberryhill Mar 2019 #22
And, when questioned on that little detail, they would say.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #33
according to the article garybeck Mar 2019 #34
What industry would that be? jberryhill Mar 2019 #35
Drive past a Oil Refinery CDerekGo Mar 2019 #26
Yes, and I've worked in a number of them. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #32
Here you go.... jberryhill Mar 2019 #36
Thank you, JBH. A very interesting design. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #38
It would be good on farm use where you don't have to "punch it." 3Hotdogs Mar 2019 #15
I've never understood why farms don't run on algae oil? Finishline42 Mar 2019 #27
True, but... TreasonousBastard Mar 2019 #17
Great idea tiptonic Mar 2019 #10
Bingo. watoos Mar 2019 #12
Catch and kill isn't only for the news media mitch96 Mar 2019 #28
How do they manage to do that jberryhill Mar 2019 #37
Ammonia is another energy storage chemical. Energy storage requires a source of primary energy. NNadir Mar 2019 #16
OK, that puts a different spin on it. TreasonousBastard Mar 2019 #18
I was waiting for you to comment on this thread. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #19
I see you commented along similar lines above. The biggest issue I see with Haber-Bosch... NNadir Mar 2019 #23
Thanks for the summary exboyfil Mar 2019 #20
Thanks for the emphasis on the 2nd law of thermodynamics - you can't get something for free erronis Mar 2019 #21
Thank you NNadir, I always learn something from your posts. And aside from the refresher c-rational Mar 2019 #24
Excellent rebuttal. defacto7 Mar 2019 #29
My first thought was about safeinOhio Mar 2019 #25
This brings back a funny memory to me. Many years ago justhanginon Mar 2019 #30
Ammonia is commonly used as a refrigerant in the agricultural industry. hunter Mar 2019 #31
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