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n2doc

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7. Great. Hope it doesn't take 10 years for it to happen

Reply to IDemo (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:44 AM

Apr 2012

and just perhaps, can we get an electric car that doesn't cost twice as much as the gas version?

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Big 'Green'? IBM works on 500 miles-per-charge battery [View all] IDemo Apr 2012 OP

Go IBM! (more) longship Apr 2012 #1

Electric cars are BS KurtNYC Apr 2012 #2

ROFLMAO kristopher Apr 2012 #3

Unlimited amounts of lithium charged with 33% efficient coal fired grid power, KurtNYC Apr 2012 #16

I've never seen any serious proposals to move 18-wheelers with batteries NickB79 Apr 2012 #32

Only if you're using the Republican dictionary to define "efficient" and "green". DCKit Apr 2012 #4

Republican dictionary ? You're the one blindly and poorly defending an IBM press release. KurtNYC Apr 2012 #17

$0.04/mile running costs not low enough? Not efficient? Not green? DCKit Apr 2012 #20

Generally where electric rates are higher then so are gas prices txlibdem Apr 2012 #26

PS, in Albany, New York gas is over $4 a gallon. txlibdem Apr 2012 #27

Preaching to the choir. I just can't afford the premium for an electric. DCKit Apr 2012 #29

The Leaf goes 100 miles txlibdem Apr 2012 #30

less efficient? caraher Apr 2012 #6

Let's start with charging the batteries KurtNYC Apr 2012 #15

The difference in efficiencies between the electric motor (90%) and ICE (25-30%) is what counts IDemo Apr 2012 #18

How much of electricity do you think is coal generated? dmallind Apr 2012 #21

Electric engines are about 90% efficient. Combustion barely breaks 30%. joshcryer Apr 2012 #25

Unh Hunh And Internal-Combustion Is So Environmentally-Friendly Vogon_Glory Apr 2012 #8

i/c engines usrname Apr 2012 #9

It's about decoupling the energy generation from the energy storage jeff47 Apr 2012 #10

My electric car costs less than $30/month to run. tinrobot Apr 2012 #22

Looks like the IBM PR department is earning their salaries. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #5

Great. Hope it doesn't take 10 years for it to happen n2doc Apr 2012 #7

Their forcast is for 2020-2030. jeff47 Apr 2012 #11

No they aren't. n2doc Apr 2012 #12

The Leaf is a 4-door family car. You can't pretend it's "comparable" to tiny 2-door. jeff47 Apr 2012 #13

You may think so n2doc Apr 2012 #14

They won't, because of how they're marketed jeff47 Apr 2012 #19

Compare cost of ownership, not purchase price. tinrobot Apr 2012 #23

And there you go for those of us living in the real world. DCKit Apr 2012 #24

Oh, and insurance is less for the Leaf tinrobot Apr 2012 #33

+1 txlibdem Apr 2012 #31

As an aside... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #28