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txlibdem

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26. Generally where electric rates are higher then so are gas prices
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:25 AM
Apr 2012

While the 4 cents a mile may not be true for every part of the country, the savings in energy costs to run your vehicle are great compared to any internal combustion engine vehicle. And since the days of "cheap oil" are past gasoline is only going to get more expensive (on average) as the years go by.

I pay extra to get wind power from my electric utility, 12 cents a kilowatt hour (kWh) so my cost to drive an all-electric car would be between 2.4 cents per mile and 4.2 cents per mile.

Best case:
200 watt hours per mile / 1000 to get kWh per mile, multiplied by 12 cents in my case
or, with the heater, stereo, lights, etc., turned on:
350 watt hours per mile/ 1000 to get kWh per mile, multiplied by 12 cents

You can make an easy comparison with a gasoline burner car by dividing the price per gallon by the Miles Per Gallon

@$2.50 per gallon
40 mpg = 6.25 cents per mile
50 mpg = 5 cents per mile
60 mpg = 4.1667 cents per mile

1. It's unlikely that you pay $2.50 per gallon and your car gets 40+ MPG.
2. No matter how you slice it the electric car is cheaper to drive
3. Corporate monsters in electric vehicles -vs- corporate monsters in fossil fuels = a tie.
4. Electric vehicles are the only vehicle that will get CLEANER the longer you own it as more renewable energy is added to the grid (or solar panels get cheap enough for you to put them on your roof).

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Go IBM! (more) longship Apr 2012 #1
Electric cars are BS KurtNYC Apr 2012 #2
ROFLMAO kristopher Apr 2012 #3
Unlimited amounts of lithium charged with 33% efficient coal fired grid power, KurtNYC Apr 2012 #16
I've never seen any serious proposals to move 18-wheelers with batteries NickB79 Apr 2012 #32
Only if you're using the Republican dictionary to define "efficient" and "green". DCKit Apr 2012 #4
Republican dictionary ? You're the one blindly and poorly defending an IBM press release. KurtNYC Apr 2012 #17
$0.04/mile running costs not low enough? Not efficient? Not green? DCKit Apr 2012 #20
Generally where electric rates are higher then so are gas prices txlibdem Apr 2012 #26
PS, in Albany, New York gas is over $4 a gallon. txlibdem Apr 2012 #27
Preaching to the choir. I just can't afford the premium for an electric. DCKit Apr 2012 #29
The Leaf goes 100 miles txlibdem Apr 2012 #30
less efficient? caraher Apr 2012 #6
Let's start with charging the batteries KurtNYC Apr 2012 #15
The difference in efficiencies between the electric motor (90%) and ICE (25-30%) is what counts IDemo Apr 2012 #18
How much of electricity do you think is coal generated? dmallind Apr 2012 #21
Electric engines are about 90% efficient. Combustion barely breaks 30%. joshcryer Apr 2012 #25
Unh Hunh And Internal-Combustion Is So Environmentally-Friendly Vogon_Glory Apr 2012 #8
i/c engines usrname Apr 2012 #9
It's about decoupling the energy generation from the energy storage jeff47 Apr 2012 #10
My electric car costs less than $30/month to run. tinrobot Apr 2012 #22
Looks like the IBM PR department is earning their salaries. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #5
Great. Hope it doesn't take 10 years for it to happen n2doc Apr 2012 #7
Their forcast is for 2020-2030. jeff47 Apr 2012 #11
No they aren't. n2doc Apr 2012 #12
The Leaf is a 4-door family car. You can't pretend it's "comparable" to tiny 2-door. jeff47 Apr 2012 #13
You may think so n2doc Apr 2012 #14
They won't, because of how they're marketed jeff47 Apr 2012 #19
Compare cost of ownership, not purchase price. tinrobot Apr 2012 #23
And there you go for those of us living in the real world. DCKit Apr 2012 #24
Oh, and insurance is less for the Leaf tinrobot Apr 2012 #33
+1 txlibdem Apr 2012 #31
As an aside... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #28
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