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Nihil

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12. Umm ... did you mean a different type of "capacity"?

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:38 AM

Apr 2012

> Pity they didn't give capacity figures, though...

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Operator Location Fuel Capacity Start Date
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E.ON Wasserkraft Waldeck II pumped storage 300 2015/6***
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Schluchseewerke Atorf pumped storage 1400 2018****
Trianel Simmerath pumped storage 640 2019****
Trianel Nethe/Hoexter pumped storage 390 2018****
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AT PLANNING STAGE
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Trier utility Schweich pumped storage 300 2017
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Jochenstein Jochenstein/Riedl pumped storage 300 2018
Mainz utility Heimbach pumped storage 500 2019
Trianel Gotha/Schmalwasser pumped storage 1000 2019
EnBW Forbach (extension) pumped storage 200 no date
...

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Table - German power [View all] Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 OP

Boy, that's a shitload of coal spewing toxins and CO2 into the air. TheWraith Apr 2012 #1

And yet they continue to decrease overall emissions. kristopher Apr 2012 #2

Are you refering to the 25 million ton increase? Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #3

You are acting like a climate denier... kristopher Apr 2012 #4

If you are including all the data.. Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #5

No... they aren't. FBaggins Apr 2012 #7

Out of interest, kris... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #8

The government and the utilities that push nuclear and coal kristopher Apr 2012 #10

Yes kris. That's why I asked. Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #11

They have split personalities of course. FBaggins Apr 2012 #13

Noticed you ran from this same discussion at your thread on the same topic kristopher Apr 2012 #17

How odd... you misspelled "imagined" as "noticed". FBaggins Apr 2012 #18

What's the specific *market* mechanism by which nuclear shuts down coal? kristopher Apr 2012 #19

In the real world, ALMOST ALL power is subsidized in some way or another. XemaSab Apr 2012 #20

Poor xemasab... kristopher Apr 2012 #21

What does your consulting company do then? XemaSab Apr 2012 #23

What consulting company? kristopher Apr 2012 #24

Wink wink nudge nudge say no more XemaSab Apr 2012 #27

What consulting company? kristopher Apr 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Apr 2012 #29

Still waiting. Either provide specifics or retract your insinuation. kristopher Apr 2012 #30

Kris, you've said you're an independant analyst Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #31

Two things: XemaSab Apr 2012 #36

What consulting company? kristopher Apr 2012 #37

Here's the deal: XemaSab Apr 2012 #38

Bullpucky. You've been party to stalking me off of DU. kristopher Apr 2012 #39

You said you weren't paid. joshcryer Apr 2012 #40

How do you arrive at that logic? kristopher Apr 2012 #42

OK, I'm confused Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #48

Finally you are listening, but you still aren't quite getting it. kristopher Apr 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Apr 2012 #52

That's a nice cushy role you've chosen for yourself there. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #53

Who said it is a luxury? kristopher Apr 2012 #54

Irony's not dead XemaSab Apr 2012 #55

Poor Xemasab... What's the specific *market* mechanism by which nuclear shuts down coal? kristopher Apr 2012 #56

You can frame it however you want for yourself GliderGuider Apr 2012 #57

That perception by you and yours developed in direct proportion kristopher Apr 2012 #58

Oh, my perception goes back a lot further than that. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #59

"imperiously ordering"? kristopher Apr 2012 #60

The issue isn't whether we were right or wrong GliderGuider Apr 2012 #61

Turnabout is fair play XemaSab Apr 2012 #41

Again... kristopher Apr 2012 #43

So you think I am influenced by dark motives? XemaSab Apr 2012 #44

An business license that hasn't been used in 6 years doesn't turn up on a routine google search. kristopher Apr 2012 #45

It shows up on the special google XemaSab Apr 2012 #46

Oh, wait, sorry XemaSab Apr 2012 #47

It's so cute that you think EITHER has anything to do with market forces. FBaggins Apr 2012 #49

You really haven't got a clue and are not interested in learning. kristopher Apr 2012 #51

At least there is an increase in storage Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #6

Pity they didn't give capacity figures, though... nt Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #9

Umm ... did you mean a different type of "capacity"? Nihil Apr 2012 #12

Sorry, I meant as in MWh Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #14

OK - that makes sense. Nihil Apr 2012 #15

The fucking coal will be economically unextractable by 2035. joshcryer Apr 2012 #25

Economies of scale Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #26

No, I mean, I guess I should say it will be declining at that point. joshcryer Apr 2012 #32

Not sure that applies to German lignite... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #33

Oops, see post #34, I replied to myself! joshcryer Apr 2012 #35

See these comments: joshcryer Apr 2012 #34

Still doesn't make it right to use nuclear power madokie Apr 2012 #16

Fair enough... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #22