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OKIsItJustMe

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57. You claimed (upstream) “Morality is a learned trait that is passed on through teaching”

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:16 PM

Apr 2012

It seems clear that it is not that simple.

Once again, Darwin was not talking about DNA. He was simply talking about natural selection for desirable traits. Some moral traits seem to be encoded at the level of our DNA. Others are clearly not.

However, when you look at something like “The Age of Enlightenment” such a thing can only occur, if the Human species is prone to accept it.

Somehow (for example) the Athenians embraced Democracy long before “The Age of Enlightenment.”

It appears that (as I originally claimed) “The Age of Enlightenment” was a product of our evolution.

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Are you a Doomer™? [View all] GliderGuider Apr 2012 OP

Good conversation. I can't really add to it xchrom Apr 2012 #1

What does the word Fixed™ mean to you? GliderGuider Apr 2012 #2

Well in government terms - for example - the EPA xchrom Apr 2012 #4

Our brain structure helps lock us into crisis mode responses. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #16

I think the Enlightenment gave us other structures xchrom Apr 2012 #18

To what extent does the Enlightenment trump Evolution? GliderGuider Apr 2012 #20

Who says the Enlightenment is not Evolution? OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #34

It didn't change our brain structure or function GliderGuider Apr 2012 #35

Actually I was suggesting that the Age of Enlightenment was a product of our evolution OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #36

Sorry, but I don't see culture in Darwinian terms. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #42

Darwin did OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #49

I know about epigenetics GliderGuider Apr 2012 #50

Morality appears to be much more than a “learned trait” OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #51

Try a morality that's a little more complex and problematic than altruism. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #52

The Moral Instinct OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #53

Interesting that you should quote Pinker GliderGuider Apr 2012 #55

Babies embrace punishment earlier than previously thought, study suggests OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #54

Again, it's too easy. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #56

You claimed (upstream) “Morality is a learned trait that is passed on through teaching” OKIsItJustMe Apr 2012 #57

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, at least for now. GliderGuider Apr 2012 #58

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...and yet.. atheous Apr 2012 #3

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