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paleotn

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10. Unrec. Sounds like hyperventilating to me...
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:29 PM
Dec 2019

And I thought I was a climate change extremist. Yes, climate change will reorder human civilization in terrible, horrible ways, but lets keep it in scientific fact and not hyperbole. That's a bad enough outcome for anyone.

1. Temp changes aren't the same across the planet. They're averages, with temps increasing much more in extreme northern and southern latitudes than mid latitudes. It will take more than 1.5 to 2 C to fail crops globally. A more important issue are changes in weather patterns with more extreme droughts and heavy rains. Crop yields, overall will drop, but global crop failure? BS.

2. Billions die? Why? Global crop failures at 1.5 to 2 C? I've already covered that. Global conflict due to water shortages? That's possible. And more like millions potentially in fragile places like south Asia and central Africa. Globally? Doubtful, but more realistic than 1,2 and 4.

3. 4 C? Humans extinct? Utter and complete BS. 100K years ago, maybe, as there were far fewer Homo sapiens on the plant. Now? Not going to happen. Total BS.

4. Ever hear of the Paleocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum...PETM? Look it up. That was 5 to 8 C higher than today. Not a world I'd want to live in and getting their will destroy much of human civilization, but uninhabitable? Bullshit.

Lastly....No offense, but I call BS on your fallacy of authority towards the end. Your arguments aren't logical on their face, so I don't care how many degrees you have. Keep it real, folks, or our detractors will have a field day and climate change WILL run uncontrolled.

And unfortunately many and I mean right wingers, don't care. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #1
Humans are destroying the planet and with it, themselves. They refuse to vote CousinIT Dec 2019 #2
i believe we are already tipping hard, and i had shocking evidence on my farm this year mopinko Dec 2019 #3
I am assuming DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #6
i'm in chicago. mopinko Dec 2019 #18
As a former resident of the Houston area (I was for IKE) I can testify that rain bombs are real flying_wahini Dec 2019 #8
oh thank you!! mopinko Dec 2019 #17
A true leader follows the facts... Harker Dec 2019 #4
But "Greed is good." 3Hotdogs Dec 2019 #5
We may not even have that long... Prospero1 Dec 2019 #7
Ugh. paleotn Dec 2019 #12
We will die with the Amazon. There are 3 things killing it: CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #9
Unrec. Sounds like hyperventilating to me... paleotn Dec 2019 #10
One googles the opening line nilram Dec 2019 #14
It depends on one's definition of "global crop failure" The_jackalope Dec 2019 #24
I have been noticing the rising of our water table, as well. PWPippinesq Dec 2019 #11
The original thread is quite long nilram Dec 2019 #13
Good information in that thread. Thanks for the link. c-rational Dec 2019 #15
Paleo Climate Record modrepub Dec 2019 #16
We're currently changing the climate faster than at any point in the past 65 million years NickB79 Dec 2019 #19
Greenland Ice Core Record modrepub Dec 2019 #21
Northern Europe is not the globe NickB79 Dec 2019 #22
Global Temperature Changes modrepub Dec 2019 #23
Thanks for posting Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #20
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