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16. Paleo Climate Record
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:07 PM
Dec 2019

As someone else noted, global temperatures in Earth's past history have been quite a bit higher than today. Even with all the green house gas additions, there are probably episodes in Earth history where natural out gassings have raised CO2 levels just as rapidly as we are experiencing today and at least some life forms adopted.

That doesn't mean we should ignore this problem or that there aren't going to be significant consequences for life on this planet due to our lack of action because there will. My concern is economic. If Greenland and Antarctic ice melts catastrophically in the next few decades some prime real-estate is going to become worthless and our banking system is going to have to deal with a significant write down; I could also see lots of prime farmland becoming worthless as climate changes adding more onto the other problem. That's my worry because we won't be able to deal with this problem if our economic system suffers something similar to what happened during the Great Depression times 20.

Right now off the coast of the NE US there are several thousands of megawatt producing wind farms in the planning stages. This administration is doing its best to slow these projects down and fast-track gas development and combined cycle gas plant development. To have this much renewable energy off the coast of some of the highest populated areas in the US will do a lot to reduce our fossil fuel habit and may actually show if these type of projects can function on a big grid.

I'm very hopeful and slightly curious to see how this "race" turns out. Do the natural gas combined cycle plants in Pennsylvania get built and tied into the grid before these big wind farms of the eastern sea board get built? Whoever comes in first will probably put the other out of business or in the case of these wind farms, make sure they never get built. Interesting times these are.

And unfortunately many and I mean right wingers, don't care. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #1
Humans are destroying the planet and with it, themselves. They refuse to vote CousinIT Dec 2019 #2
i believe we are already tipping hard, and i had shocking evidence on my farm this year mopinko Dec 2019 #3
I am assuming DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #6
i'm in chicago. mopinko Dec 2019 #18
As a former resident of the Houston area (I was for IKE) I can testify that rain bombs are real flying_wahini Dec 2019 #8
oh thank you!! mopinko Dec 2019 #17
A true leader follows the facts... Harker Dec 2019 #4
But "Greed is good." 3Hotdogs Dec 2019 #5
We may not even have that long... Prospero1 Dec 2019 #7
Ugh. paleotn Dec 2019 #12
We will die with the Amazon. There are 3 things killing it: CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #9
Unrec. Sounds like hyperventilating to me... paleotn Dec 2019 #10
One googles the opening line nilram Dec 2019 #14
It depends on one's definition of "global crop failure" The_jackalope Dec 2019 #24
I have been noticing the rising of our water table, as well. PWPippinesq Dec 2019 #11
The original thread is quite long nilram Dec 2019 #13
Good information in that thread. Thanks for the link. c-rational Dec 2019 #15
Paleo Climate Record modrepub Dec 2019 #16
We're currently changing the climate faster than at any point in the past 65 million years NickB79 Dec 2019 #19
Greenland Ice Core Record modrepub Dec 2019 #21
Northern Europe is not the globe NickB79 Dec 2019 #22
Global Temperature Changes modrepub Dec 2019 #23
Thanks for posting Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #20
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