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PamW

(1,825 posts)
5. BALONEY!!!
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:42 AM
May 2012

Once again Kris shows he doesn't understand what was said.

Take the portion he highlighted about the 95% of spent fuel. I said NOTHING about burning 95% of the spent fuel in a breeder.

The composition of spent fuel is about 95% - 96% U-238. I said absolutely NOTHING about burning the U-238. The 96% of spent fuel that is U-238 poses ZERO waste disposal problem because it is EXACTLY the same as the U-238 that we dug out of the ground. Natural Uranium contains 99.3% U-238; and hence we could take 96% of spent fuel and just put it back where we got it; in the ground.

The part about recycling as fuel that I said above applies to the long-lived Plutonium. ( Try working on that reading comprehension; so that you don't confuse the Plutonium which is about 2% of spent fuel with the 96% that is U-238 ).

The 96% of spent fuel that is U-238 is not a problem to dispose of; just separate it out and put it back where you got it. U-238 is no more radioactive out of a reactor than it is out of the ground.

It is the Plutonium that needs to be burned as fuel.

Arjun is giving a calculation as to what it would take to burn all the U-238 as fuel; not the Plutonium.

Yes - it takes 500 years to burn U-238; that means we have 500 years of power in the Uranium that is already mined.
With fast actinide burners; we have 500 years of power without mining any more uranium. Sure puts a LIE to all those that say we will run out of nuclear fuel in 50 years or whatever.

Kris; try better next time at keeping your nuclides straight.

You've confused burning U-238 with burning Plutonium.

PamW

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Nuclear waste has to be contained for a million years bananas May 2012 #1
Good post! nt ladjf May 2012 #2
Thanks, ladjif RobertEarl May 2012 #15
Another good post. ladjf May 2012 #32
Reprocess/Recycle for short lived waste PamW May 2012 #3
THE MYTHOLOGY AND MESSY REALITY OF NUCLEAR FUEL REPROCESSING kristopher May 2012 #4
BALONEY!!! PamW May 2012 #5
I'm not going to argue with someone that has no regard for the truth kristopher May 2012 #6
FAILED UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN!!! PamW May 2012 #7
OK RobertEarl May 2012 #8
Answers... PamW May 2012 #9
Nope kristopher May 2012 #10
FAILED AGAIN!!!! PamW May 2012 #11
I know the difference between bullshit propaganda on the internet kristopher May 2012 #12
STRIKE THREE - YOU'RE OUT!!! PamW May 2012 #13
Arjun proved NOTHING!! PamW May 2012 #19
The determination that it increases waste is not made by Dr. Makhijani kristopher May 2012 #25
NOT FALSE PamW May 2012 #26
That was just two answers RobertEarl May 2012 #14
Whose fault is that? PamW May 2012 #17
You are so right RobertEarl May 2012 #18
That's for the Japanese to call... PamW May 2012 #20
That is your answer? RobertEarl May 2012 #22
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW May 2012 #27
What real scientists say about reprocess/recycle: It's a "goofy idea". bananas May 2012 #16
What is the Alternative?? GreenWin May 2012 #21
Renewable energy sources are more than capable of meeting modern society's needs. kristopher May 2012 #23
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW May 2012 #29
Wrong way Pam/Gregory strikes again... kristopher May 2012 #30
Accusing other people of being sockpuppets and calling other people liars XemaSab May 2012 #31
WRONG AS ALWAYS!! PamW May 2012 #33
Yes, you were. Thank you for repeating my correction of your error kristopher May 2012 #34
FOUL!!! PamW May 2012 #35
A hero!! RobertEarl May 2012 #24
BS- that it is "illegal" PamW May 2012 #28
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