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ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
13. I answered your questions, how about answering mine
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 2012

I will repeat my answer in more detail...

Self generation approaches today are basically for the well to do. Any private installation that has surplus power (taken over a year) is not going to be small or low cost. They are mostly for those with money based on price alone.

Generally the current consumer billings are based on total monthly usage, regardless of time of day. Those with local generation capability trade KWH for KWH, regardless of when it was generated or used with an annual balancing of the books.

Your contention that PV generated power at peak times is always traded against off peak power is also an overly broad assumption. Assuming a typical usage profile, KWH generated during the summer are often "used" during peak times in the winter under the current approach. I admit it is not perfect, but it is a step forward and compatible with the rest of the billing approaches authorized by the PUC

Some current smart meters can break down usage to TOD, but they are not widely installed. In fact the CA PUC just approved a scheme so those who really want the old analog style meters can retain them (for a price). A utility could install meters that tracked usage vs TOD and consumers could be billed on that basis. However, those without private generation capacity would scream at the cost.

If the PUC adopts the scheme you champion, the well to do would most likely pay even less for power and the rest of the utilities customers would have to pay more. Somehow taking money from the rest of us to pay the well off does not seem real progressive to me and that will be the effect of what you champion. I believe the social cost of such a scheme needs to be looked at broadly, and hopefully the CA PUC will do that.

That answers your question (for the second or third time)


Now to my questions:

Why are you not considering the broader social implication while pushing a rate scheme that benefits the rich over the broader population?

Why are you so set on adding to my pocketbook?

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What is their objection? BlueToTheBone May 2012 #1
Competition jpak May 2012 #2
With a distributed renewable grid... kristopher May 2012 #31
Over simplified puff piece ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #3
The issue is a public policy vote by the California Public Utilities Commission kristopher May 2012 #4
Actually I am explaining the facts as they exists today in California ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #5
The article is in no sense a "puff piece" kristopher May 2012 #6
Your usual retreat to ad hominems... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #7
Bullshit. kristopher May 2012 #8
The only bullshit here is from your sacred cows... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #9
Your diversion is noted but I'm still waiting... kristopher May 2012 #10
I answered your questions, how about answering mine ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #13
Bullshit, that isn't an answer any more than your earlier comments addressed the OP. kristopher May 2012 #14
You sacred cow is gored...I think it needs another injection of hyperbole... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #19
Poor "Progressive Professor"... kristopher May 2012 #24
dude just stop backwoodsbob May 2012 #29
feel free to explain in detail how that is so... kristopher May 2012 #30
. XemaSab May 2012 #28
How can you call a person who went solar anti-solar? Yo_Mama May 2012 #11
No, the "Professor's" points are not good. kristopher May 2012 #12
Actually they are excellent ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #15
Horsehocky - you are standing directly in corporate utility's shoes. kristopher May 2012 #16
Take some pics of your set-up and post them. Ikonoklast May 2012 #17
This is the internet. kristopher May 2012 #23
I have a pretty good idea as to where that poster is coming from. Ikonoklast May 2012 #26
That's a lot more efficient way of making the same point. kristopher May 2012 #27
Sort of like your solar setup is totally unsubstantiated? XemaSab May 2012 #25
Because I do not toe his line WRT to renewal energy and offer instead a more rational approach ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #18
More horsehocky. kristopher May 2012 #20
It does illustrate the level of ridiculousness that has blighted DU lately, no? NickB79 May 2012 #21
Really? kristopher May 2012 #22
If you are in California you might want to sign their petition kristopher May 2012 #32
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