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chaska

(6,794 posts)
14. No, it's not a good response....
Mon May 7, 2012, 02:55 PM
May 2012

And sorry, gas guzzlers ARE much more efficient than electric vehicles. Stop and think about it. Most electricity comes from coal which is highly energy intensive to mine. And contains a far lower concentration of energy than gasoline (fewer BTUs per pound).

And solar can't even begin to compete with coal because of the very same problem, that sunlight is highly diffuse in terms of energy concentration. It takes massive infrastructure to concentrate it to the levels necessary to power our civilization.

Using less energy (vastly less) is the right path. Alternative energy is inevitable but it won't solve any of our problems. Only by addressing the human infestation on planet Earth will we make true progress. That or just plain running out of energy, which will also reduce population. And by energy I mean fossil fuel, for without that none of the other is possible on the scale necessary.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not a winger. And my position is not right wing either. I know about energy, and perhaps more importantly, I know about the common pitfalls to human thinking that set us up to believe the nonsensical traps we continually fall into.

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Could it be time to lower the price? Vincardog May 2012 #1
New designs are expensive. They'll come down in price. Look at stereos now vs. 1970's. Gregorian May 2012 #2
Yes, they will come down in price, the question is how much and how fast OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #17
Doing some math: Turbineguy May 2012 #3
You also save on reduced maintainance: no oil changes, for one. NT NickB79 May 2012 #4
While this is true, it does not influence the typical consumer much OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #18
I switched over to CFL's in 2005, and it's been awesome NickB79 May 2012 #22
Those ICE powerplant efficiency numbers to not apply to automobiles - too high. kristopher May 2012 #5
You are quite correct Turbineguy May 2012 #19
To clarify kristopher May 2012 #20
the Leaf is gawd awful ugly madokie May 2012 #6
You mean coal-powered cars? chaska May 2012 #7
Electric drive autos are an important part of the solution kristopher May 2012 #8
Republican talking points??? chaska May 2012 #13
No, 100 years from now we'll either be living a lot better.. Fumesucker May 2012 #21
Blame the power companies, not the vehicle companies. tinrobot May 2012 #9
Good response. Nihil May 2012 #10
No, it's not a good response.... chaska May 2012 #14
Sorry... that's very shortsighted FBaggins May 2012 #15
It's a good thing we have you around to correct those Argonne National lab types IDemo May 2012 #16
The weather is warming up and bicycles are coming out SkatmanRoth May 2012 #11
US sales =/= sales dmallind May 2012 #12
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