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GliderGuider

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22. Scientism is a bit more than that.
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:46 PM
May 2012

The scientific method gave me my car, computer, insulated and heated home, all the trappings of Empire that make life worth living. I have a degree in computer science, and grew up in a household headed by a research biochemist and a physicist. I'm all for the scientific method.

Scientism, however, is a different kettle of carp, and not nearly as benign as your offhand comment would make it seem:

From Wiki:

Scientism is a belief in the universal applicability of the scientific method and approach, and the view that empirical science constitutes the most authoritative worldview or most valuable part of human learning to the exclusion of other viewpoints. The term frequently implies a critique of the more extreme expressions of logical positivism and has been used by social scientists such as Friedrich Hayek, philosophers of science such as Karl Popper, and philosophers such as Hilary Putnam to describe the dogmatic endorsement of scientific methodology and the reduction of all knowledge to only that which is measurable. (Emphasis added)

That is a fair description of the position I reject, because it limits (unfairly and unnecessarily, in my view) the topics that are deemed acceptable for investigation as to their "truth". You have picked up on the fact that I have a more elastic definition of truth than that. I'm a died-in-the-wool relativist, so the nature of "truth" is for me strongly context-sensitive. To you this represents "truthiness", while for me it's just another day at the office.

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News Flash: "World Bank Discovers Greenwashing" GliderGuider May 2012 #1
i just KNEW there would be some great comments about this! xchrom May 2012 #3
+1 Great minds think alike. DCKit May 2012 #4
That isn't it at all. kristopher May 2012 #16
Then banks shouldn't be the arbiters cprise May 2012 #30
Leaving aside for a moment... kristopher May 2012 #31
policy cprise May 2012 #33
That's more of a rant than an alternative... kristopher May 2012 #34
Please save the Chicago economics 101 cprise May 2012 #35
You say there are more choices but you didn't say what they are. kristopher May 2012 #39
How do you turn this into greenwashing? kristopher May 2012 #5
PLF GliderGuider May 2012 #6
You are just promoting perceptions that have little validity. kristopher May 2012 #7
The world is lucky to have you in it, kristopher. GliderGuider May 2012 #9
Facts are persistant things GG kristopher May 2012 #10
Yes, that is indeed what I count on. GliderGuider May 2012 #14
There is always give and take in finding the truth kristopher May 2012 #17
I don't reject the scientific method - it's quite valuable. GliderGuider May 2012 #19
"I'm not in the study business, sorry. Ask kristopher if you need a study done." - GG kristopher May 2012 #20
Scientism is a bit more than that. GliderGuider May 2012 #22
As I said below kristopher May 2012 #23
Why do you think your science degree is better than everyone else's? XemaSab May 2012 #24
You are more than welcome to support your "call" with reason and data. kristopher May 2012 #25
Even though I don't agree with Glider Guider a lot of the time XemaSab May 2012 #26
Yep, definately crab apples. kristopher May 2012 #27
Says the person who is going around attacking people XemaSab May 2012 #29
I'm not convinced in that, you routinely throw out the evidence showing us that we have no values... joshcryer May 2012 #28
Neoliberalism also holds that markets/capital cprise May 2012 #32
Only Kristopher can have valid perceptions .... oldhippie May 2012 #11
Pointing out that GG is wrong kristopher May 2012 #12
Actually, you are usually just pointing out that you disagree with me. GliderGuider May 2012 #18
Yes and no. kristopher May 2012 #21
Good luck with that. It seems over the years that people have gotten less NC_Nurse May 2012 #2
Another World-Class World Bank Fail hatrack May 2012 #8
I don't get your sarcasm kristopher May 2012 #13
I don't get your lack of reading comprehension hatrack May 2012 #36
+100 GliderGuider May 2012 #37
I'm well aware of the damage the world bank is responsible for. kristopher May 2012 #38
More and more of life under the very visible hand of the human market The2ndWheel May 2012 #15
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