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caraher

(6,356 posts)
21. I think the idea of needing a "policy" is the problematic part
Thu May 10, 2012, 05:37 PM
May 2012

DU already has policies against wingnuttery. And we already have the power to argue with anything we disagree with, provided we do so in a civilized fashion. (And sometimes even if we don't.)

Suggesting we need more of a "policy" than that naturally brings to mind the notion of expanding the list of DU-banned discussions (from TOS: "chemtrails, black helicopters, 9/11 death rays or holograms, the "New World Order," the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission...&quot . Most of the things I can think of to add that are E/E-relevant would be along the lines of the worst climate change denial talking points; going much further than that would muzzle honest differences of opinion far too much for my linking.

I do very much appreciate things like the contents of Post 12. Exposing these campaigns is important, I think we're interested in knowing about them, and spreading the news when someone gets caught red-handed is infinitely more productive than casting aspersions on fellow DUers one happens to disagree with. As the cliche goes, sunshine is a great disinfectant.

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k&r nt bananas May 2012 #1
Copy of leaked memo referenced in OP - This is effing incredible!!! kristopher May 2012 #12
This is a logical outcome of the Powell Memorandum of 1971. GliderGuider May 2012 #17
Move along, nothing to see. Don't bother reading post #12... kristopher May 2012 #18
Oh, by all means people should read post 12. I didn't say it was unimportant. GliderGuider May 2012 #19
"Knowing that it exists won't make it any easier to counter its effects" kristopher May 2012 #37
I believe there may already be such a policy in place OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #2
I don't think that addresses a commercially motivated propaganda campaign kristopher May 2012 #8
Like photographs of burning wind turbines? Kolesar May 2012 #3
As a photovoltaic enthusiast, I rather like the old Bell System ads… OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #4
Among other things. kristopher May 2012 #44
That goon Trump is now organizing against wind -- for what reason I don't know Kolesar May 2012 #46
If you see right-wing talking points being posted XemaSab May 2012 #5
I don't believe in the fascist Ministry of Truth concept being put forward here. joshcryer May 2012 #6
Who put forward a concept, "fascist Ministry of Truth" or otherwise? kristopher May 2012 #7
Your poll option, "DU needs some sort of policy to deal with conservative misinformation campaigns" joshcryer May 2012 #9
Do you or do you not think DU is subject to attention from commercially motivated PR campaigns? kristopher May 2012 #10
I do not think such evidence exists. joshcryer May 2012 #11
How much time and money do you think they have? GliderGuider May 2012 #16
Setting aside yet another personal attack from you... kristopher May 2012 #20
DU doesn't change policy, lobbyists do. And they used policy analysts... joshcryer May 2012 #23
I think the idea that we are under attack from an organized army of keyboard warriors GliderGuider May 2012 #26
It's unfortunate you feel that way. kristopher May 2012 #28
That is a presumptuous and loaded remark...eom Kolesar May 2012 #13
"Show usernames" ... lol Kolesar May 2012 #14
DU does need such a policy. FBaggins May 2012 #15
I think the idea of needing a "policy" is the problematic part caraher May 2012 #21
Why is that the only type of policy that is possible? kristopher May 2012 #22
Again, already being done ... Nihil May 2012 #25
"Again"? kristopher May 2012 #27
I guess maybe the word "policy" is confusing caraher May 2012 #29
Do you have any alternatives to suggest? kristopher May 2012 #31
The Great Leader thinks your suggestion is a good one XemaSab May 2012 #32
What suggestion? kristopher May 2012 #33
Really, I'd like to know what suggestion you are referring to. kristopher May 2012 #34
. XemaSab May 2012 #35
Where is there a suggestion in that? kristopher May 2012 #36
We've already banned one denier from the group XemaSab May 2012 #30
Nuclear advocacy is a right wing talking point Kolesar May 2012 #47
So you'll be leaving DU soon? FBaggins May 2012 #48
From post 12 - the ultimate goal of the right wing strategy in their own words. kristopher May 2012 #50
You've obviously replied to the wrong post. FBaggins May 2012 #51
Right, sure, fine, whatever XemaSab May 2012 #49
Slapp Suit, A Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation, .. (nolo) Kolesar May 2012 #24
I don't think we need a policy, kristopher. We need truth police, advocates, we need to fight. NYC_SKP May 2012 #38
That's a bit self contradictory kristopher May 2012 #39
Do you want DU policy to dictate speech? NYC_SKP May 2012 #40
I don't know how any policy could "dictate speech"? kristopher May 2012 #41
Fight with someone else, kristopher. I'm already on your side. NYC_SKP May 2012 #42
This isn't fighting. kristopher May 2012 #43
Yes it is. GliderGuider May 2012 #45
Kick kristopher May 2012 #52
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