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FBaggins

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69. Lack of "taste" can be dealt with through the jury system.

Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:35 PM

Dec 2011

I think I know the poster you're refering to (though my experience has been a lack of civility on both sides). If someone gets personally insulting, refer it to a jury. If you're worried that others will alert your posts, add your 15 favorite pro-nuclear posters and they won't even be able to serve on a jury for one of your posts. Juries are selected from across DU (not E/E specifically). If people get out of hand, the forum has an outlet for dealing with them as a community - the host doesn't do that.

The host's powers are limited to declaring a thread to be off-topic (which he certainly can't do just because it's anti-nuke or he won't be host for long)... and blocking a disruptive poster from the group entirely (a decision that can easily be appealed if it's a regular poster and the host just happens to not get along with him - another case where a host can be dis-rated easily).

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"How did we get a host?" a locked thread asks? Here is the answer. [View all] kristopher Dec 2011 OP

Here's the deal: XemaSab Dec 2011 #1

Please clarify a couple of your views; when asked earlier you sidstepped the questions. kristopher Dec 2011 #28

One clarification and one additional question kristopher Dec 2011 #36

. XemaSab Dec 2011 #39

Why wont you answer the question posed? kristopher Dec 2011 #45

Err, Because it was the most popular option? Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #46

That has nothing to do with the questions posed to xema. kristopher Dec 2011 #47

You misunderstand, Kris. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #48

Why are you acting as xema's proxy? kristopher Dec 2011 #49

If you want to start a thread to form a new SOP, go ahead. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #50

He says after 4 posts diverting from the topic - Questions for Xema - kristopher Dec 2011 #51

You're still not getting it, Kris Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #52

You too are a very strong advocate for nuclear power, right? kristopher Dec 2011 #107

I prefer hydro offset by wind. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #155

Only 25% of the Democratic party supports your position on nuclear. kristopher Dec 2011 #104

Why not wait for evidence of malfeasance? GliderGuider Dec 2011 #2

The deceptive method of becoming host was malfeasance. kristopher Dec 2011 #3

Sorry. Nope. FBaggins Dec 2011 #5

Why was an end run around the process attempted? kristopher Dec 2011 #6

Because you desperately wanted to be the host of course. FBaggins Dec 2011 #7

So she didn't tell Skinner there was an ongoing discussion because I too volunteered to be host? kristopher Dec 2011 #8

As I said... disingenuous at best. FBaggins Dec 2011 #11

I actually have no problem with two groups Nederland Dec 2011 #24

The invitation is still standing. kristopher Dec 2011 #25

I completely agree Nederland Dec 2011 #29

And the invitation still stands... kristopher Dec 2011 #31

Do you understand that this thread has nothing to do with the scientific value of Jacobson's paper? GliderGuider Dec 2011 #32

That post explains my behavior - and questions your own. kristopher Dec 2011 #33

You're really going to take that route? GliderGuider Dec 2011 #34

I shared what I had already written. kristopher Dec 2011 #35

I will decline the invitation Nederland Dec 2011 #40

Of course you will kristopher Dec 2011 #41

Do you have absolutely no sense of humor at all? (nt) Nederland Dec 2011 #43

medical experts say that not understanding sarcasm Confusious Dec 2011 #44

Advocate for nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #114

Is that suppose to be a degrogatory comment? Confusious Dec 2011 #145

A climate "skeptic" and a proponent of nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #108

Even worse, I'm a Unitarian too... (nt) Nederland Dec 2011 #157

Heathen! Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #158

The personal insults continue Nederland Dec 2011 #162

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #163

Unitarian, eh? Same background for me. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #161

You are a nuclear supporter, correct? kristopher Dec 2011 #105

Are you serious? FBaggins Dec 2011 #120

Damned right it's relevant. kristopher Dec 2011 #123

Nope. And I note that you're dodging the actual relevant question. FBaggins Dec 2011 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Nederland Dec 2011 #156

I have to agree with your assessement... SpoonFed Dec 2011 #53

"Emotional maturity" FBaggins Dec 2011 #4

I was about ready to swallow that emotional maturity argument and then I saw JPak as a host. Massacure Dec 2011 #19

There's a difference. FBaggins Dec 2011 #20

Seconded. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #26

"Reformed" advocate for nuclear power kristopher Dec 2011 #112

In my defense - I usually respond to vicious over-the-top personal attacks with real laughter jpak Dec 2011 #30

Advocate for nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #115

Someone who imagines that that's relevant. FBaggins Dec 2011 #121

Good point Yo_Mama Dec 2011 #9

Advocate for nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #113

There's already been several examples of malfeasance and abuse. bananas Dec 2011 #16

"We were reaching a consensus of no host" joshcryer Dec 2011 #17

Your bar for "malfeasance and abuse" appears incredibly low FBaggins Dec 2011 #18

Well, this is why I was a "no host" person all along caraher Dec 2011 #22

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #116

Yep. SpoonFed Dec 2011 #54

Two? Out of six. Confusious Dec 2011 #58

Where? Nihil Dec 2011 #60

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #110

That is a lie. Nihil Dec 2011 #125

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #109

kristopher, your behaviour in this thread is outrageous and disruptive. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #148

He's trying hard to get the thread locked and (he hopes) himself blocked as disruptive. FBaggins Dec 2011 #153

I admit, I was surprised at first to find we had a host OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #10

I figured that you would feel that way. FBaggins Dec 2011 #12

I’ll take it as a compliment (thanks) OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #13

I'm pleased with our Hosts. joshcryer Dec 2011 #14

So long as we burn fossil fuels E&E will be inseparable... hunter Dec 2011 #23

Yet another nuclear power advocate. kristopher Dec 2011 #111

My input as a member host on my assignment - pinto Dec 2011 #15

Some reading for those interested kristopher Dec 2011 #21

The hypocrisy is rancid Confusious Dec 2011 #27

I think it's clear that your ongoing vitriolic attacts against kristopher... SpoonFed Dec 2011 #55

Really, which would those be? Confusious Dec 2011 #57

I knew from the beginning E/E would face the most contentious discussion re hosts ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2011 #37

The chances of reaching absolute consensus across E/E... Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #38

Advocate for nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #117

A noun phrase, not a statement about anything. eppur_se_muova Dec 2011 #143

Hosts and 2 groups bloom Dec 2011 #42

Thanks for your post... SpoonFed Dec 2011 #56

A nod to you and Bloom upthread Kolesar Dec 2011 #62

Alerted for continuation personal attacks from other threads as well as ... Nihil Dec 2011 #59

This "host selection" has been exactly contrary to the stated process in the DU3-Announcements-forum Kolesar Dec 2011 #61

Protip: don't believe everything you read on the internet XemaSab Dec 2011 #63

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #65

"The pronuclear temporary hosts that are on the list don't have my approval" makes that pretty clear FBaggins Dec 2011 #66

Sorry if my response to you came off as rude, that wasn't my intent XemaSab Dec 2011 #68

Welcome to DU3. There are still some things to catch up on. FBaggins Dec 2011 #64

I didn't know there are no moderators Kolesar Dec 2011 #67

Lack of "taste" can be dealt with through the jury system. FBaggins Dec 2011 #69

Tastefull and fair are not interlinked Confusious Dec 2011 #70

The OP is an accurate summary of what led to this. kristopher Dec 2011 #71

You need to go find yourself a hobby or something. Systematic Chaos Dec 2011 #72

I cannot express properly in words how disappointed I am... SpoonFed Dec 2011 #73

Lol! You must live in some sort of bizarro world. FBaggins Dec 2011 #74

Thanks for posting a good example of... SpoonFed Dec 2011 #76

You are entitled to an opinion. FBaggins Dec 2011 #78

Your entire premise is false, no one is suppressing anyone. joshcryer Dec 2011 #75

Straw man arguments in the past couple of replies... SpoonFed Dec 2011 #77

You seem to be confused about how DU3 works Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #82

"This one has been cleared by Skinner as a re-visit of "Do we need hosts?" = BS kristopher Dec 2011 #85

That was my reading of it Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #89

A self serving reading that is obviously not supported by the OP kristopher Dec 2011 #91

The option for user-created groups should be along shortly, if that helps. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #94

Sorry... no. It has been your reading that has been self-serving. FBaggins Dec 2011 #100

I think it is blatantly obvious to every reader of this thread exactly who is being "self serving". Nihil Dec 2011 #101

Yes it is "blindingly obvious". kristopher Dec 2011 #102

If you are going to use quotes, at least get the words right ... Nihil Dec 2011 #119

In other words you do not have a reason to oppose splitting EE into two groups. kristopher Dec 2011 #127

Nope. FBaggins Dec 2011 #128

Not at all. I want the science to lead the discussion kristopher Dec 2011 #133

And you insist that your interpretation of what "the science" says is the correct one. FBaggins Dec 2011 #136

Most of it isn't subject to "interpretation". kristopher Dec 2011 #138

Sorry. You're dead wrong. FBaggins Dec 2011 #139

You mean the IPCC, the IEEE journal, DOE etc. kristopher Dec 2011 #142

Nope... and it isn't a red herring. FBaggins Dec 2011 #151

Much as you might want it to be otherwise, you are still wrong. Nihil Dec 2011 #131

. kristopher Dec 2011 #135

Ah ... Nihil Dec 2011 #140

You said "the guy has a right to exist." Who is denying him that even with his disruptive behavior? joshcryer Dec 2011 #98

Advocate for nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #118

Yes, well put. SpoonFed Dec 2011 #79

Please XemaSab Dec 2011 #80

Why didn't you tell skinner the discussion was ongoing? kristopher Dec 2011 #81

Personally, I thought it was wrapped up Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #83

What you thought has absolutely nothing to do with the question asked of Xemasab. kristopher Dec 2011 #86

I'm speaking for *my*self, kris Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #87

But I wasn't speaking TO you was I. I asked HER to explain HER act. kristopher Dec 2011 #88

Oh, I'm sorry. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #90

It wasn't a private message, it was a question specifically to Xemasab. kristopher Dec 2011 #92

If it wasn't private then anyone that wishes may reply to it. n/t GliderGuider Dec 2011 #95

What do you think this is, some sort of internet forum? Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #97

Once more: Why didn't you tell skinner the discussion was ongoing? kristopher Dec 2011 #93

OK Xema. kristopher Dec 2011 #96

You obviously think that a discussion is "ongoing" until you get what you want. FBaggins Dec 2011 #99

And you obviously think that stealing the postion of host is a legitimate act. kristopher Dec 2011 #103

Lol that you continue to claim that anything was "stolen" FBaggins Dec 2011 #106

Then why didn't she accurately relate the state of the discussion here? kristopher Dec 2011 #122

She did. FBaggins Dec 2011 #126

You have to be kidding. kristopher Dec 2011 #129

Nope. You've again confused "consensus" with "unanimity". FBaggins Dec 2011 #132

Really, OUR behavior Confusious Dec 2011 #147

You got that there are no moderators now, yes? Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #84

Groups can have from 0 to 20 hosts. I have a simple solution to resolve this thread. freshwest Dec 2011 #130

We already have anti-nuke hosts. Good ones. FBaggins Dec 2011 #134

Please link that statement, I've never seen it. freshwest Dec 2011 #144

Sure. FBaggins Dec 2011 #149

You're reading way too much into that. He's a nerd, thinks, talks like one. freshwest Dec 2011 #154

Please take a moment to read these two posts kristopher Dec 2011 #137

Reasonable suggestion. Nihil Dec 2011 #141

So if someone complains enough, we should give in Confusious Dec 2011 #146

OK, are we done with this puerile foolishness now? n/t GliderGuider Dec 2011 #150

Did kris get exactly what he wanted? FBaggins Dec 2011 #152

Maybe he can captain the pseudoscience forum. miyazaki Dec 2011 #159

Well, I'm going to alert on this thread. It's not about E & E, really. freshwest Dec 2011 #160

I'm locking this for now. pinto Dec 2011 #164