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FBaggins

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52. Have you read it? Are you thus admitting your error?
Mon May 21, 2012, 10:52 AM
May 2012

Obviously not or you wouldn't have posted it.

In comparing my claim of effectively zero impact from TMI vs. your links to claims of thousands... this study comes 99% of the way over to my side. Yes, they believe they identified a tiny impact for the TMI release (and even that disagreement was effectively rebutted), but even accepting their claim, their margin of error takes the effect down to almost statistical insignificance.

If you want to shift the argument down to whether there were zero additional cancers or instead a handful... I don't see that's there's much left to argue. It certainly represents a change from your prior claims.

The problem lies in that environmental nuclear doses are not administered through doctors, etc.,

So? Did you think that physicians have access to magical radiation that works differently?

variable and of different types. Radiation in the air is natural. Nuclear is not natural

Are you sure that you aren't a pro nuclear poster just trying to make the other side look bad? A number of us joke that some anti-nukes know so little about health physics that they think that there's something different between an alpha particle emitted from a "natural" source and a "man-made" source. But you rarely get one willing to make the error so clearly as you have here.

Let me respond equally clearly. You don't know what you're talking about. "Natural" radiation is in no way different from nuclear radiation.

not only is it just skin exposure but it is ingested and inhaled. Making such doses far more deadly at nearly any amount.

The hits just keep on coming, don't they?

Again, you're dead wrong. The thousands of becquerels emitted from your body (including the Carbon 14 that plays such an important role in your DNA) is internal radiation. The radon that in your part of the country makes up a big portion of your background dose, is inhaled constantly. The radionuclides in your food and water are obviously ingested. X-rays from cosmic background radiation or medical procedures are not "ingested/inhaled", but it hardly matters since your skin is no protection (that's why x-rays work of course).

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Low-dose study finds no effects [View all] FBaggins May 2012 OP
I'd like to see this study . . . Richard D May 2012 #1
This is hardly the first with the same implications. FBaggins May 2012 #3
Ionizing radiation RE: cellular repair was taught in high schools in the 70's FogerRox May 2012 #9
And as NPR recently informed us (again, twice in 2 years) Jellyfish are good to eat. TalkingDog May 2012 #2
I've eaten jellyfish. Richard D May 2012 #4
Wait, wait... I got one more TalkingDog May 2012 #5
Ah, I see what you're trying to do there. Nice NickB79 May 2012 #7
Latest research from MIT PamW May 2012 #6
I think there are at least 2 legit models FogerRox May 2012 #10
Just as importantly... FBaggins May 2012 #11
The LBNL study pretty much blows away the no-threshold model PamW May 2012 #29
They watched it, thats really cool FogerRox May 2012 #38
"the absense of the genes" jpak May 2012 #8
And what case would that be? FBaggins May 2012 #12
A spelling error by the editor of a newspaper signifies what? nt NickB79 May 2012 #13
Toxic Sludge Is Good For You bananas May 2012 #14
This is a study done by MIT and published in a peer-reviewed journal, that replicated a previous one NickB79 May 2012 #15
The OP and post 6 kristopher May 2012 #16
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW May 2012 #43
Excellent! flamingdem May 2012 #27
Problem is RobertEarl May 2012 #17
I'm sure the study itself is neither compromised nor poorly done. kristopher May 2012 #19
You don't understand the paper... PamW May 2012 #30
Why not just do a study of the fallout zone of the 1950s Downwinder May 2012 #18
Or read this about TMI RobertEarl May 2012 #20
Even more fictional "reality", eh? FBaggins May 2012 #21
Semantics RobertEarl May 2012 #22
Semantics? FBaggins May 2012 #23
Eh? RobertEarl May 2012 #24
Yes. That's what I'm claiming. FBaggins May 2012 #25
Possible relevance? RobertEarl May 2012 #26
TMI - no significant radiation dose to the populace.. PamW May 2012 #28
Pam RobertEarl May 2012 #31
SCIENCE; not polls PamW May 2012 #32
Like i says RobertEarl May 2012 #33
Maybe you could over react some more FogerRox May 2012 #39
Thanks for your reply RobertEarl May 2012 #41
Releases ARE monitored PamW May 2012 #61
Yeah, sure, all releases are all monitored 100% RobertEarl May 2012 #62
Of course you remain mired in confusion. FBaggins May 2012 #34
Oh? RobertEarl May 2012 #35
That's a precarious perch you've set up for yourself. FBaggins May 2012 #36
Wrong again RobertEarl May 2012 #37
Then why dont flight attendants and pilots who fly long haul FogerRox May 2012 #40
WRONG!! PamW May 2012 #44
Perhaps you can explain then, Downwinder May 2012 #45
That's EASY PamW May 2012 #46
So where are the Scientific Studies Of the 1950s fallout? Downwinder May 2012 #47
"Dirty bombs" are "Weapons of Mass Distraction" PamW May 2012 #48
It has been half a century since the Nevada open air tests, long Downwinder May 2012 #49
Are you under the impression that there haven't been any? FBaggins May 2012 #50
Here is a TMI study from NIH.gov RobertEarl May 2012 #51
Have you read it? Are you thus admitting your error? FBaggins May 2012 #52
If you were honest RobertEarl May 2012 #53
Did you read the post at all? FBaggins May 2012 #54
If you were honest RobertEarl May 2012 #55
Baggins is not saying Nukes are Ok Thats BUll crap. FogerRox May 2012 #57
More like 104 nuclear units PamW May 2012 #59
Drat, I flipped the numbers, FogerRox May 2012 #60
Becasue Congress has ruled you are in 100% perfect health upon enlistment happyslug May 2012 #58
This is good news for space travel, I think. joshcryer May 2012 #42
Well, no FogerRox May 2012 #56
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