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7. Let's not play pretend: The article in the OP refers to doing away with NUCLEAR energy.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jul 2022

Of course it does. It's why it's popular with anti-nukes.

Perhaps if one read it, one would note that.

The asshole praising this energy wasting hydro storage system wrote:

“In the future, it will be increasingly necessary to store large amounts of electricity, as renewable sources gradually replace nuclear and fossil energy.”


I added the bold in case anti-nukes want to pretend they didn't see it.

It's cute that anti-nukes now include a rote interest in displacing fossil fuel energy. Of course, in reality they've never given a shit about fossil fuels, it's a late add on. Of course this hydro engineer could look down the hill to Germany to see how fucking great replacing fossil fuels with so called "renewable energy" is. It's international news, Germany, which now is matching Denmark for the most expensive electricity in Europe, and talking about shutting industries, cannot get enough fossil fuels to run the country reliably.

If Switzerland is generating hydro energy and then storing it by pumping, this is the classic example of a perpetual motion machine, which of course would certainly be acceptable in "renewables will save us" circles but laughable everywhere else.

So mentioning that Switzerland produces hydro energy, temporarily at least until climate change destroys its glaciers, should be irrelevant in a rational conversation, one that respected the laws of physics.

The Electricity Map shows imports and export, those little flowing arrows. Right now as of this writing Switzerland is importing 2.41 GW of dirty power from, um, Germany, where the carbon dioxide intensity of electricity is currently 355 grams of CO2/kwh, and 1.96 GW cleaner power from France, where the carbon intensity is currently 80 gm CO2/kwh.

In "percent talk" 80/355, the carbon intensity of France is 22.5% that of Germany.

If the Swiss are storing German electricity with this stupid system, they are making climate change worse, not better. If they are not storing energy, they have simply built a system that is immediately (and undoubtedly often) as useless as a wind turbine in dunkelflaute.

It's appalling, how, with the planet's atmosphere collapsing, how selective the attention of anti-nukes is. They are in general, never concerned with nitpicking through an argument, as in for example, complaining (for 43 years) about the cost of "cleaning up" Three Mile Island in an area, Pennsylvania, where the price of electricity is 20% (again in "percent talk" ) that of Germany while not giving a damn about the cost of cleaning up the entire fucking planetary atmosphere, a cost and need exacerbated by the grotesque stupidity of Energiewende in a country connected directly to the grid of Switzerland and neighboring it.

Have a pleasant evening.

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