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GliderGuider

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17. We know the population is rising by 75 M/year. That's true too.

Mon May 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

May 2012

As I've consistently maintained over the years, the problem is not soluble, because it's not a problem - it's a predicament.

Why would you expect general acceptance of the truth of overshoot? Even when we're halfway back down the energy hill the great unwashed will still be blaming the whole thing on the greed of fossil fuel companies and the banks. Fully half the world has an IQ below 100 and can't pour piss out of a boot with instructions printed on the heel. The other half have a fully vested interest in maintaining their own power, social status and material comforts. Recognize overshoot? William Catton, Joseph Tainter, Jared Diamond, Albert Bartlett, Jay Forrester, Dennis Meadows and I are not terribly surprised that they do not. The fact that you don't buy the idea says more about you than about the idea.

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Yes, but... GliderGuider May 2012 #9

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This message was self-deleted by its author GliderGuider May 2012 #11

Global population is rising linearly by 75 million people per year. GliderGuider May 2012 #12

That doesn't really help understand or solve the problem GG. kristopher May 2012 #15

We know the population is rising by 75 M/year. That's true too. GliderGuider May 2012 #17

If you'll notice the course described has nothing to do with what you're saying. kristopher May 2012 #18

You must have an allergy GliderGuider May 2012 #19

There was a thread on this topic a few weeks ago CrispyQ May 2012 #13

Why do people purposefully give the next 90+ years to their babies? stuntcat May 2012 #14

IMO we are into the beginning of the bottleneck. GliderGuider May 2012 #16